IF you can figure out how God can be born when he already existed, you may be on to something...
You guys are trying to put a human spin on something where the answer is spiritual and way beyond your pay grade...
Mary provided the flesh for a house for God...
By your own words, you are showing that you are the one putting a "human spin" on the Incarnation, i.e., if you can't figure it out, it must not be true. Actually, all the Christological heresies -- Nestorianism, Arianism, Monophysitism, Monothelitism, etc., etc., are attempts to reduce the great Mystery of the Incarnation, always celebrated by the Church in prayer and hymnody, to something mere human reason can understand. Again, reducing Christ to the "manageable."
No need. God is omnipotent, I will never understand everything He did for me, Christ said, "Before Abraham was, I AM." He saved His own mother before she was born and protected her from all stain of sin. He chose her from all eternity to be His virginal mother, and raised her, at the end of her life, to be with Him forever in Heaven.
Joseph was told by the angel of the Lord, "Take the child and His mother," to Egypt. Not "Take your wife and child." Same thing for their return to Israel. The wise men came and worshiped the Newborn King, NOT his mother. We don't worship His mother either. But we don't ignore the Blessed Virgin, either.
She was the chosen woman. All generations call her blest. No other woman. If you think that all happened by accident, that would be an error. Christ Jesus, one in Being with the God the Father, and God the Holy Spirit did this. We cannot understand it, salvation does not require we understand it, there is no explanation we can parse, and we can either accept it or not.
Anyone trying to separate all this out is going to find him/herself thinking in strictly human terms, asking questions about Mary's sexuality that we have NO RIGHT to ask of Christ the Savior's mother. Speculation about her is a sin, imho. The Blessed Trinity did it, it was Holy, it was Good, and it is none of our business. When God is Incarnated, any attempt to understand the physical mechanism quickly becomes an encroachment on God's privacy, the Mother of God's privacy.
Mary provided the flesh for a house for God...
Nope. GOD provided the enfleshment for His Only Begotten Son. Mary was she, a creation of Almighty God, whom He saved from all stain of sin from the moment of her conception. And of course He can do that.
No need. God is omnipotent, I will never understand everything He did for me, Christ said, "Before Abraham was, I AM." He saved His own mother before she was born and protected her from all stain of sin. He chose her from all eternity to be His virginal mother, and raised her, at the end of her life, to be with Him forever in Heaven.
Joseph was told by the angel of the Lord, "Take the child and His mother," to Egypt. Not "Take your wife and child." Same thing for their return to Israel. The wise men came and worshiped the Newborn King, NOT his mother. We don't worship His mother either. But we don't ignore the Blessed Virgin, either.
She was the chosen woman. All generations call her blest. No other woman. If you think that all happened by accident, that would be an error. Christ Jesus, one in Being with the God the Father, and God the Holy Spirit did this. We cannot understand it, salvation does not require we understand it, there is no explanation we can parse, and we can either accept it or not.
Anyone trying to separate all this out is going to find him/herself thinking in strictly human terms, asking questions about Mary's sexuality that we have NO RIGHT to ask of Christ the Savior's mother. Speculation about her is a sin, imho. The Blessed Trinity did it, it was Holy, it was Good, and it is none of our business. When God is Incarnated, any attempt to understand the physical mechanism quickly becomes an encroachment on God's privacy, the Mother of God's privacy.
Mary provided the flesh for a house for God...
Nope. GOD provided the enfleshment for His Only Begotten Son. Mary was she, a creation of Almighty God, whom He saved from all stain of sin from the moment of her conception. And of course He can do that.