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To: Natural Law

” I simply answered that in this context, the translation into English was flawed. It means only she participated with Jesus in our redemption.”

Uh, no she didn’t. Did she hang on the cross? Did she shed her blood for the remission of our sins? Please, please, please, please, please cite scripture that ascribes to Mary ANY office or authority to participate with Christ in our redemption!!!!

“St. Augustine described the doctrine....”
Based on what scriptural reference(s)?

I can provide some that show that Christ alone is our redeemer and intercessor:
1 Tim. 2:5-7
“5For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time.”

Hmm. Nothing there about Mary.

Acts 4:11-12
“11 This Jesus is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone. 12And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

How about from Jesus’ mouth directly — direct from God:
John 14:6
“6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.””

Mary didn’t participate in ANY way with Christ in order to secure our redemption or salvation. She bore him. She is in no way equal with him, working with him or providing any intercession for us. Sorry.

Hoss


1,497 posted on 12/21/2010 3:43:21 PM PST by HossB86
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To: HossB86
"She is in no way equal with him,"

On this we agree. The rest of it.....not so much.

1,501 posted on 12/21/2010 3:53:39 PM PST by Natural Law
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