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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Dutchboy88
The Protestant Reformers did not believe Mary was sinless............

Really?

Luther had the following to say:

"But the other conception, namely the infusion of the soul, it is piously and suitably believed, was without any sin, so that while the soul was being infused, she would at the same time be cleansed from original sin and adorned with the gifts of God to receive the holy soul thus infused. And thus, in the very moment in which she began to live, she was without all sin..."

Well?

I asked your tag team partner the same question but he appears to have bailed on me, so I'll repeat it to you; are you happy to sign off on Luther's statement?

All those blasphemies were heaped on Mary by the papacy. They belong to Rome alone.

Like calling Mary "The Mother of God" as Luther did?

Did you miss that part?

Would that be a "blasphemy", too?

Luther the blasphemer?

Really?

Luther had a lot of learning to undo.

ROFL............poor Luther!!

Uh.........maybe many of the current miasma of "churches" have now gone so far off the rails as to be unrecognizable to a man like Luther, thus necessitating condescending drivel such as yours. Maybe the "reform" has progressed to such a point as to have completely lost touch with its original intent and now espouses every heresy imaginable, including many never even dreamed of by Luther!

Who cares what Albert Mohler (who?) thinks??

I'll be posting plenty of articles in the coming days and weeks which show clearly what the Church Fathers thought of Mary and the world will be to clearly see how far removed tripe like yours is from the thoughts of those who studied at the feet of the Apostles and who helped to build the early Church.

Enjoy!

120 posted on 12/17/2010 11:48:28 AM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow
Apparently you did not read my statement which said Luther had a lot to unlearn.

Luther's EARLY musings on Mary were later retracted, in great part, as he rid himself of the paganism inherent in papist teaching. If some of the virulent Mariology lingered in his mind, well, all men are fallen. He knows the truth now.

May we pray Roman Catholic apologists follow his lead.

Post tenebras lux.

128 posted on 12/17/2010 12:05:01 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: marshmallow

Looks like you bailed on us.

Must mean you are reading “Bondage of the Will” by Luther. Keep at, my FRiend, there is great wisdom in there.


165 posted on 12/17/2010 2:19:03 PM PST by Dutchboy88
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