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Are You More Blessed Than the Virgin Mary?
Desiring God ^ | 12/15/2010 | Jonathan Parnell

Posted on 12/15/2010 5:09:09 PM PST by RnMomof7

In the sermon descriptively entitled, “That Hearing and Keeping the Word of God Renders a Person More Blessed Than Any Other Privilege That Ever God Bestowed on Any of the Children of Men,” Jonathan Edwards writes: The hearing and keeping the word of God brings the happiness of a spiritual union and communion with God. ‘Tis a greater blessedness to have spiritual communion with God and to have a saving intercourse with him by the instances of his Spirit and by the exercise of true devotion than it is to converse with God externally, to see the visible representation and manifestations of his presence and glory, and to hear his voice with the bodily ears as Moses did. For in this spiritual intercourse the soul is nigh unto and hath more a particular portion than in any external intercourse. ‘Tis more blessed to be spiritually related to Jesus Christ—to be his disciples, his brethren and the members—than to stand in the nearest temporal relation, than to be his brother or his mother. Come, Thou Long Expected Jesus, ed. Nancy Guthrie, 57.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Ecumenism; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: blessed; catholicbashing; edwards; marianobsession; mary; scripture
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To: RegulatorCountry

This is ONE reading of Revelation. Another is that Revelation —alternately,”The Apocalypse,” is is prophecy in the same sense that Isaiah is prophecy: an insight into the present age with only hints of future events, events that only the people of the future will recognize, will make sense only by looking backwards. Scott Hahn has even speculated that it is mainly a coded representation of the mysteries of the Church.


401 posted on 12/16/2010 7:28:42 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: RobbyS
Murder is unlawful killing.

Yes, it is. Abortion is unlawful killing.

402 posted on 12/16/2010 7:40:06 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: IrishCatholic; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

You are 1,000% wrong about me.

Thankfully.

Bearing false witness is not a fruit of Holy Spirit, BTW.

Have you ever thought that

your brazenly horrific and seemingly grossly uninformed biases may well not be

GOSPEL TRUTH?


404 posted on 12/16/2010 7:43:12 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: IrishCatholic; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...
BTW, it's much more plausible

that if there's any hatred at all on such threads . . .

it is housed within the hearts of those who

champion Mary over Christ and over Holy Spirit . . . any HINT that Mary has ursurped the roles of Christ as the only route to God and Holy Spirit as THE drawer of all to God is hideous blasphemy and idolatry.

All those guilty of any hint of such within the Vatican system would do well to repent in great contrition and sorrowfulness.

The examples of such are vividly displayed on here almost 24/7 and certainly in tons of writings like: a la . . .

ONCE AGAIN,
just a small part of
THE EVIDENCE: .
.
.

Here's the title:

http://www.amazon.com/Ten-Meditations-Mysteries-Rosary-Ferraro/dp/0819801577/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272938246&sr=1-2

And it carries the official sanctions of:

ni•hil ob•stat
n.
1. Roman Catholic Church An attestation by a church censor that a book contains nothing damaging to faith or morals.
2. Official approval, especially of an artistic work.

WITH RICHARD CARDINAL CUSHING’S IMPRIMATUR

Let me track down the brief portion of quotes upthread . . .

Here they are:

However, as we've seen through a variety of sources--a pile of them in Ferraro's manual about the Rosary--the Roman Catholic et al/Vatican Edifice disagrees with a lot of the claims of RC's hereon to the contrary.

p.32
.
[Quixicated emphases below]
Mary is crowned Queen of heaven and earth, dispenser of all graces . . .

p32
4 - She became Queen of Purgatory, where she exercises her power as mediatrix in behalf of these suffering souls.

5 - She became Queen of us sinners, to assist us through the dangers of this life and to help us in difficulties.

6 - She became the ruler of hell, that trembles at her slightest gaze and is defeated by her power.

"Just as a rock extracted from earth will precipitate into the abyss, so will man, left without Mary's help, quickly slide toward hell." --Richard of St Victor

p37
Sacred Heart of Jesus, Thy kingdom come; Thy kingdom come through Mary! --Partial Indulgence

p41
"Mary is the tree of life to those who grasp her, and he is happy who hold her fast." --Prov. 3:18

p43
1 - "Hail Mary, beloved daughter of the Father, Mother of the Divine Son, Spouse of the Holy Spirit, complement of the most august Trinity!"

p45
6 - To her was granted grace greater than that conferred upon all others, 'that she might vanquish sin in every respect.'
.
[Qx: I guess Christ's vanquishing sin was unnecessary--or ineffectual without Mary's assistance?]

p46
7 - "Mary is the dawn of God because, just as the dawn marks the end of darkness and the beginning of day, so Mary indicates the end of vices and the beginning of virtue."
.
[Qx: I guess Christ's conquering on The Cross and HIS conquering trip to hell were unncessary?]

9 - God loved Mary so much that He gave her the keys to His heart. 'No one can go to God without Mary drawing him.'
.
[Qx: I guess Holy Spirit has been relegated to a 'Walter Mitty' role as spouse of Mary? That's SOME POWER to cancel & take over HOLY SPIRIT'S role to draw men to God!]

p47
4 - "Mary, trusting in the word of the angel, destroyed the sin Eve committed by trusting in the serpent.'
.
[Qx: Evidently, she beat Christ to the job of vanquishing sin!]

5 - "She desired the safety of everyone, went in search of it, and obtained it; it was also through her that this salvation was wrought."
.
[QX: What an unnecessary waste of precious Blood and suffering on THE CROSS!!!/sar]

p47
10 - "As Noah's Ark saved all the animals that entered it, so Mary saves all the souls that entrust themselves to her care."

p50
8 - "If she were not so holy as she is, how could God appoint her to be the ladder of Paradise, the advocate of the world, meatrix between HIm and us?"

p50
4 - "By becoming Mother of God, Mary belongs to the order of hypostatic union; hence she participates IN the infinite sanctity of God."

405 posted on 12/16/2010 7:46:55 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: metmom

The Law doesn’t say that. Now the prophet Jeremiah says that the Lord knew him in the womb, and we find that insight elsewhere. But the law does not The Jewish animus against abortion—which definitely distinguished them from the Greeks—is a traditional belief. The chief objection being: how do you know your are NOT killing the Messiah?


406 posted on 12/16/2010 7:47:04 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: IrishCatholic

BTW,

such heart reading

and mind-reading

—while thankfully 1,000% wrong—

are also NOT fruits of Holy Spirit

as well as violations of the Rel Forum rules.


407 posted on 12/16/2010 7:48:20 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: IrishCatholic; metmom; RnMomof7; smvoice

Yes, I’m aware that RC’s hereon and around the world routinely make up their own rules as they go along . . . then find some phrases in the Catechism to support them. LOL.

Impressive.

NOT.


408 posted on 12/16/2010 7:49:35 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

“as well as violations of the Rel Forum rules.”

“Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam in thy own eye, and then shalt thou see to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.”


409 posted on 12/16/2010 7:51:56 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: RobbyS

The Law says, *Thou shall not murder*.

Abortion is murder. It’s the taking of a human life.


410 posted on 12/16/2010 7:54:08 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Quix

Mary plays an essential role in the hypostatic union, in that she is Theotokos. the God-bearer. It is is she who has brought Jesus into the World and HE is the source of all graces possessed by her. She is the greatest of all creatures, including the angels. But between any creature and God is an immeasurable gaps and only Jesus can “fill” that gap.


411 posted on 12/16/2010 7:56:47 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: metmom
Hi Metmom_ I hope and pray you feel well.

What you try to point out could also be against Christ's true position with these verses:

Matthew 11:11 Truly, I say to you, among those born of women there has arisen no one greater than John the Baptist. Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

Luke 7:28 I tell you, among those born of women none is greater than John. Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he."

When Christ states Luke 7:28 among those born of women none is greater than John. Christ himself was born of woman. So Christ can be also not greater than John with that logic.

Also remember 2 PETER 3:18" but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity. Amen."

Do we not grow in Grace and Knowledge. If Grace is only one sustaining Grace how come we can grow in it like Peter writes?

412 posted on 12/16/2010 8:00:41 PM PST by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: RobbyS

She is the greatest of all creatures,


THAT is UNBIBLICAL—disagreeing with God’s Word.

God’s usually not very happy when folks contradict His Word so brazenly.

as the verse I quoted above affirms.

Idolatry is NOT a fruit of Holy Spirit.


413 posted on 12/16/2010 8:02:18 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: IrishCatholic; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

Which word in

“Do not mind read”

do you NOT understand?


414 posted on 12/16/2010 8:03:38 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: metmom

The Law allows for the taking of human life.


415 posted on 12/16/2010 8:09:12 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Quix

Which part of:
“Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam in thy own eye, and then shalt thou see to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.”

Don’t you understand?

You are the one nipping at my heels. I’m not chasing you. That goes back to my original post. I am not interested in your hatred. You can keep that for yourself. Talking to bigots is a waste.


416 posted on 12/16/2010 8:16:27 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: IrishCatholic

Yeah, I know it’s a waste to try and wake the willfully walking . . . unaware . . .

however, sometimes it’s just a strange recreational pursuit.

It helps me keep in mind the Biblical Truths that the

Vatican Alice in Wonderland School of Theology and Reality Mangling Institution

violates and trashes so routinely.


417 posted on 12/16/2010 8:20:25 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Christ and his Church are there when, and if, you give up your hatred.


418 posted on 12/16/2010 8:25:29 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: IrishCatholic; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

Delusions about nonexistent hatred are not fruits of Holy Spirit.

They do appear to me to be mind-reading . . . thankfully

MOST INACCURATELY.

Mystifying such a lack of discernment from those claiming to be active Christians.

However, I’m planning on wandering off to bed shortly.

You are welcome to wallow in whatever false notions you care to wallow in.


419 posted on 12/16/2010 8:29:43 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: IrishCatholic

BTW, I’m a very commited Christian and part of

CHRIST’S UNIVERSAL CHURCH, PRAISE HIS NAME.


420 posted on 12/16/2010 8:30:35 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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