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Are You More Blessed Than the Virgin Mary?
Desiring God ^ | 12/15/2010 | Jonathan Parnell

Posted on 12/15/2010 5:09:09 PM PST by RnMomof7

In the sermon descriptively entitled, “That Hearing and Keeping the Word of God Renders a Person More Blessed Than Any Other Privilege That Ever God Bestowed on Any of the Children of Men,” Jonathan Edwards writes: The hearing and keeping the word of God brings the happiness of a spiritual union and communion with God. ‘Tis a greater blessedness to have spiritual communion with God and to have a saving intercourse with him by the instances of his Spirit and by the exercise of true devotion than it is to converse with God externally, to see the visible representation and manifestations of his presence and glory, and to hear his voice with the bodily ears as Moses did. For in this spiritual intercourse the soul is nigh unto and hath more a particular portion than in any external intercourse. ‘Tis more blessed to be spiritually related to Jesus Christ—to be his disciples, his brethren and the members—than to stand in the nearest temporal relation, than to be his brother or his mother. Come, Thou Long Expected Jesus, ed. Nancy Guthrie, 57.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Ecumenism; Theology; Worship
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21 posted on 12/15/2010 6:14:12 PM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: Cannonball Bill; RnMomof7; metmom; Quix; lastchance; Cronos
ha ha ha, nice little poke this time of year. The Angel Gabriel saluted her as “full of grace”. Are you arrogant enough to think you were ever filled with grace as she was or is? Protestant-ism...heretics

I'm a sinner and I've been filled with God's grace. However, I'm not a pregnant virgin.

Are you?

22 posted on 12/15/2010 6:16:22 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: RnMomof7

Yawn. More protestant heresy. Sad.


23 posted on 12/15/2010 6:18:11 PM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: diamond6

Wonderful post!!!!! I will pray for your father & you.

In case you haven’t noticed, you’d be further ahead to talk to a wall rather than try to convince this bunch of anything about our Catholic faith. This are misguided, ignorant, misinformed, and choose to remain so.


24 posted on 12/15/2010 6:18:45 PM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: topcat54

My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.

Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen

Scripture text: Revised Standard Version - Catholic Edition

Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.

Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.

Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.

Amen.


25 posted on 12/15/2010 6:19:47 PM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: diamond6

I think the origination of that term (Merry Christmas) was Mary-Christ Mass.


26 posted on 12/15/2010 6:20:46 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Standing by the walls of Minas Tirith as Sauron's forces pound the gates...)
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To: surroundedbyblue

Thank you so much. He has a rare form of melanoma. I so appreciate your prayers. God bless you!!!


27 posted on 12/15/2010 6:21:15 PM PST by diamond6 (Pray the Rosary to defeat communism and Obamacare!!)
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To: hosepipe

There is also a wonderful call-in show called Catholic Answers. They are situated in San Diego, I think, but they are broadcast through a growing number of Catholic radio stations that are popping up all over the U.S. For example Immaculate Heart radio in Fresno. I believe they are streamlined through EWTN radio. Anyone here who differs in their beliefs can always call in the show and ask the host for more clarification. Half of the callers are protestants and they seem, for the most part, very appreciative of the clarification of issues they have.


28 posted on 12/15/2010 6:25:56 PM PST by diamond6 (Pray the Rosary to defeat communism and Obamacare!!)
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To: diamond6

I’m sorry to hear that. I’m getting ready to begin my evening prayers now so I will include him. May God bless you & your father in this difficult time.

A little boy (baby, actually) that I’ve been caring for at work for the last year just died from a brain tumor on Sunday. Could you please remember him & his parents in your prayers? Thank you!

Merry Christmas!


29 posted on 12/15/2010 6:26:49 PM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: RnMomof7

Not a Catholic, but I will say that it is insanely stupid to even worry about this. Mary is where she is in God’s heart. We are where we are.

I presume we are equally blessed. But only God knows, and our peabrained attempts to speculate are mere vanity. For shame.


30 posted on 12/15/2010 6:29:32 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: diamond6
[ There is also a wonderful call-in show called Catholic Answers.]

I know what roman catholics think they believe and what other orthodox catholics believe as well..

But not all catholics are catholics..
Even some catholics that are carholics are not universal..

31 posted on 12/15/2010 6:34:10 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: diamond6; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; Belteshazzar; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
Mary is NOT a sinner.

Scripture for that? Chapter and verse?

As if the Holy of Holies would allow himself to be borne of a sinner.

Why not? He allowed Himself to eat with sinners and drink with sinners and touch sinners and die for sinners. Why would being carried by one be beneath His dignity?

Philippians 2:5-7 5 Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, 6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.

Jesus is not a snob.

Look how the ark of the covenant was treated. It was very well respected. Mary is the living ark who bore the God-Man.

Scripture to support that? Where does it say that in the Bible?

If she’s good enough for Jesus, she’s good enough for me.

Where's the references to Him praying to her and lighting candles to her and bowing down to her?

32 posted on 12/15/2010 6:43:33 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.

Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen

Scripture text: Revised Standard Version - Catholic Edition

Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.

Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.

Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.

Amen.


33 posted on 12/15/2010 6:46:34 PM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: diamond6

All Mary needed was the right lineage and to be a virgin.

That was ALL that qualified her for the job.


34 posted on 12/15/2010 6:47:21 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RnMomof7

“The Virgin Mary remains in the middle between Christ and humankind. For in the very moment he was conceived and lived, he was full of grace. All other human beings are without grace, both in the first and second conception. But the Virgin Mary, though without grace in the first conception, was full of grace in the second ... whereas other human beings are conceived in sin, in soul as well as in body, and Christ was conceived without sin in soul as well as in body, the Virgin Mary was conceived in body without grace but in soul full of grace.”

~ Martin Luther

(in The One Mediator, the Saints, and Mary, Lutherans and Catholics in Dialogue VIII, edited by H. George Anderson, J. Francis Stafford, Joseph A. Burgess, Minneapolis: Augsburg Fortress Press, 1992, p. 238. He gives further references in his footnote 22 on page 381: “Sermon on the Feast of the Immaculate Conception (December 8?) 1527. Festival Postil (Festpostille). WA 17/2:288.17-34.”)


35 posted on 12/15/2010 6:50:40 PM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: narses; RnMomof7
~ Martin Luther

What is it that Roman Catholics expect with they quote protestants in this fashion? Do they expect us to genuflect and kiss Luther's ring? We are protestants. We believe in sola Scriptura . We know that all men put their pants on one legs at a time. We know that men and councils can and do err.**

If we don't believe in the infallibility of your pope, we certainly do not believe it for the likes of a Luther. Do you think we are so stupid that we'll give up our principles for one erroneous statement?

** 3. All synods or councils, since the Apostles' times, whether general or particular, may err; and many have erred. Therefore they are not to be made the rule of faith, or practice; but to be used as a help in both. (Westminster Confession of Faith)

36 posted on 12/15/2010 7:06:24 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: metmom
Mary is NOT a sinner.......Scripture for that?.... Chapter and verse?

Yes indeed...someone please do. It isn't good enough they imagine "Mary being the living Ark"...as has been stated by the Vatican and Popes etc....it's just ridiculous thinking and has zip zero scripture to support it.

Can't hardly believe people actually put their faith in teaching as this, Metmom. But then if some believe a seared iron bottom full of residue projects an image of Christ...well then everything is then open to ones imagination.

The Vatican treats it's members like children to be entertained....what next can they enamor them with? All to keep them focused on "things" and "mystic thinking". It is appalling to say the least.

Just proves once again that if Rome says it is so ..to them it is so... no matter if it defies reason, knowledge and plain common sense. Let alone without any scripture backing apart from twisting and molding them beyond recognition.

37 posted on 12/15/2010 7:07:42 PM PST by caww
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To: RnMomof7
"...which is CHRIST IN YOU the hope of glory." Col. 1:27.

"But God, who is rich in mercy, for His great love wherewith He loved us, even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved:) and hath raised us up together and made us sit together in Heavenly places IN CHRIST JESUS." (Eph. 2:4-6).

We are IN CHRIST. He is IN US.

"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath BLESSED US WITH ALL spiritual blessings in heavenly places IN CHRIST." (Eph. 1:3)

AND we have been blessed with ALL spiritual blessings IN CHRIST.

SO, am I more blessed than the Virgin Mary? According to the RCC, she is standing at the right hand of Jesus Christ, dispensing grace right now. I am IN CHRIST right now. He is IN ME right now. The RCC would take great offense, and say no, Mary is much more blessed than me. God's word of truth says yes, my life is so melded into Christ that I "am dead, and my life is hid with Christ in God." (Col. 3:3). As usual, there is a difference of opinion between the RCC and God's word. And, as usual, God's Word prevails once again.

38 posted on 12/15/2010 7:08:15 PM PST by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: RnMomof7; Quix; B4Ranch; SonOfDarkSkies
Are You More Blessed Than the Virgin Mary?

Yup.

Mary is dead.

I'm alive in 21st century America.

No greater blessing has yet been revealed.

Thank you Jesus for putting me here and now.

Give me the strength, wisdom, and ability to do Your will without hesitation or failure.

Amen!


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

39 posted on 12/15/2010 7:11:30 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: topcat54

My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.

Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen

Scripture text: Revised Standard Version - Catholic Edition

Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.

Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.

Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.

Amen.


40 posted on 12/15/2010 7:15:33 PM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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