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To: ArrogantBustard
"ROFL!"

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Of course you are referring to 1 Timothy 3:15 --

The context of which discusses how we conduct ourselves in the (entire) household of God...

Paul- here speaking within the pastoral letter (specifically to his spiritual son, Timothy)

....In defining the church as such, does not elevate, abrogate or excuse Christians and the church as a whole from adhering to the written Word as the final authority of faith and practice.

While I should have made that point clearer - earlier....
I did not mock you.

Because the Roman Church often holds to itself as the (only true) household-- and historically... to the exclusion of other streams of faith...

We do indeed operate with different "lingo" and understandings of those terminologies and phrases.

And therefore...
We have an inherently different point of view.

As I said earlier -- without mocking you---

We shall agree to disagree.

Again... enjoy your day.

20 posted on 12/15/2010 10:15:01 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Wings-n-Wind
Of course you are referring to 1 Timothy 3:15 --

Congratulations ... a bit of quick wwweb research is a good thing. A bit more reflection is a better thing. Whatever the context of that passage may be, the fact remains that St. Paul identifies the Church as the "pillar and ground of truth".

He cannot possibly have been identifying Scripture as such, for reasons I will not insult your intelligence by enumerating.

Because the Roman Church often holds to itself as the (only true) household-- and historically... to the exclusion of other streams of faith...

When two "streams of faith" offer contradictory assertions of Truth, at most one of them is right, and at least one of them is wrong. In trivial example, to assert that the Moon is made of Stilton is to exclude the possibility that it is Monterey Jack.

We have an inherently different point of view.

Clearly. From your POV, this business of "Marian Apparitions" apparently seems arrant nonsense. Fine ... but we already knew that, didn't we? So what point in demanding of those who reject "sola scriptura" as heresy that they prove something purely from Scripture? That, to me, seems arrant nonsense. Better, I think, to simply ask "Why do practice as you do, and why do you believe what you believe? What is the basis of your belief? How do your actions follow from it?" In the end, the questioner may well still disagree, but at least he will have learned something.

21 posted on 12/15/2010 10:36:02 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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