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To: blasater1960
John is not an inspired book.

Of course it is, along with the other 26 NT books. Basic Christian theology 101.

2. Under the name of Holy Scripture, or the Word of God written, are now contained all the books of the Old and New Testaments, which are these:

Of the Old Testament:
Genesis II Chronicles Daniel
Exodus Ezra Hosea
Leviticus Nehemiah Joel
Numbers Esther Amos
Deuteronomy Job Obadiah
Joshua Psalms Jonah
Judges Proverbs Micah
Ruth Ecclesiastes Nahum
I Samuel The Song of Songs Habakkuk
II Samuel Isaiah Zephaniah
I Kings Jeremiah Haggai
II Kings Lamentations Zechariah
I Chronicles Ezekiel Malachi

Of the New Testament:
The Gospels Galatians The Epistle
according to Ephesians of James
Matthew Philippians The first and
Mark Colossians second Epistles
Luke Thessalonians I of Peter
John Thessalonians II The first, second,
The Acts of the to Timothy I and third Epistles
Apostles to Timothy II of John
Paul's Epistles to Titus The Epistle
to the Romans to Philemon of Jude
Corinthians I The Epistle to The Revelation
Corinthians II the Hebrews of John

All which are given by inspiration of God to be the rule of faith and life.

Jesus says John the baptist IS Elijah. John has JTB denying he is.

Oh, how silly. Other portions explain what going on. Hint: Jesus did not teach reincarnation.

Jesus most certainly did teach in secret and told those around NOT to tell anyone. He also taught in many places other than Synagogue or Temple.

Teaching in private and teaching in secret are two different things. Jesus often did the former, but none of his teaching were secret.

Jesus also speaks to you and your ilk:

And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says: 'Hearing you will hear and shall not understand, And seeing you will see and not perceive; For the hearts of this people have grown dull. Their ears are hard of hearing, And their eyes they have closed, Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn, So that I should heal them.' "But blessed are your eyes for they see, and your ears for they hear; for assuredly, I say to you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it. (Matt. 13)

212 posted on 12/13/2010 4:35:31 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: topcat54

Romans 10

1 Brothers and sisters, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved. 2 For I can testify about them that they are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. 3 Since they did not know the righteousness of God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. 4 Christ is the culmination of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.

5 Moses writes this about the righteousness that is by the law: “The person who does these things will live by them.”[a] 6 But the righteousness that is by faith says: “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’”[b] (that is, to bring Christ down) 7 “or ‘Who will descend into the deep?’”[c] (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). 8 But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,”[d] that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim: 9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. 11 As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.”[e] 12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”[f]

14 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? 15 And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!”[g]

16 But not all the Israelites accepted the good news. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our message?”[h] 17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ. 18 But I ask: Did they not hear? Of course they did:

“Their voice has gone out into all the earth,
their words to the ends of the world.”[i]

19 Again I ask: Did Israel not understand? First, Moses says,

“I will make you envious by those who are not a nation;
I will make you angry by a nation that has no understanding.”[j]

20 And Isaiah boldly says,

“I was found by those who did not seek me;
I revealed myself to those who did not ask for me.”[k]

21 But concerning Israel he says,

“All day long I have held out my hands
to a disobedient and obstinate people.”[l]

Footnotes:
Romans 10:5 Lev. 18:5
Romans 10:6 Deut. 30:12
Romans 10:7 Deut. 30:13
Romans 10:8 Deut. 30:14
Romans 10:11 Isaiah 28:16 (see Septuagint)
Romans 10:13 Joel 2:32
Romans 10:15 Isaiah 52:7
Romans 10:16 Isaiah 53:1
Romans 10:18 Psalm 19:4
Romans 10:19 Deut. 32:21
Romans 10:20 Isaiah 65:1
Romans 10:21 Isaiah 65:2


214 posted on 12/13/2010 4:40:31 PM PST by streetpreacher (I'm not a preacher of anything; I'm just a recipient and unworthy steward of God's grace.)
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To: topcat54
Of course it is, along with the other 26 NT books. Basic Christian theology

No. None of the Greek Testament is inspired.

Oh, how silly. Other portions explain what going on. Hint: Jesus did not teach reincarnation.

Silly? That is a contradiction that can not be explained away. You can spin but it is just spin. Jesus said John the Baptist is Elijah. Elijah must come first. Malachi 4: 5 “See, I will send the prophet Elijah to you before that great and dreadful day of the LORD comes. 6 He will turn the hearts of the parents to their children, and the hearts of the children to their parents;

Well he didnt restore children to parents Jesus even said:

Luke 12:53"They will be divided, (A)father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law." Teaching in private and teaching in secret are two different things. Jesus often did the former, but none of his teaching were secret.

Ridiculous! When you teach someone something and then tell them to keep it a secret....ITS A SECRET. They were told to tell no one! That is a secret.

Jesus also speaks to you and your ilk:

Uh Huh....Well, rahter than picking a scripture that is ad hominem, I prefer G-ds word that refutes your heresy:

Deut 4 15 You saw no form of any kind the day the LORD spoke to you at Horeb out of the fire. Therefore watch yourselves very carefully, 16 so that you do not become corrupt and make for yourselves an idol, an image of any shape, whether formed like man....

You insist on giving G-d a form.

Deut 4: 2 Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the LORD your God that I give you. Deut 12:31 You must not worship the LORD your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the LORD hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods(Human sacrifice like Jesus). 32 See that you do all I command you; do not add to it or take away from it.

You do add and take away from the commands.

Isaiah 40:18To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him? 46:5 “With whom will you compare me or count me equal? To whom will you liken me that we may be compared?

You try to make G-d equal and compare Him with a god-man Jesus. When G-d says...DONT compare me to ANYTHING.

Jesus fulfilled none of the Messianic prophecies that are exhaustive and exclusive. Hence the need for a second coming. No one can be crowned King Mashiach unless he has fulfilled ALL OF THE Prophecies. ALL. He will not be a god. He will not be a human sacrifice. He will not be a human vicarious atonement. He will live a normal human life.

I am not blind or deaf. Why the second coming? Because he FAILED.

217 posted on 12/13/2010 7:18:54 PM PST by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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