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To: Hegewisch Dupa
I'm telling you what the man said ...

According to his definition of prayer ... Jesus prayed TO Lazarus.

What is the issue? If you support his definition of prayer then you should have no problem admitting this. But what I think is happening is that you are seeing where this belief is going to lead.

Let me go further on his point ...

Since Jesus prayed to Lazarus ... why don't Catholics in general pray to Lazarus. Shouldnt you follow the example Christ gave and mix in a "Dear Lazarus" in between a Hail Mary and an Our Father?

Now let me say ... I am certainly applying the Limbaugh method of using absurdity to demonstrate absurdity. But this is the place you are forced to go when you impose arbitrary definitions upon the text to support a priori theological musings ... rather that exegete the Biblical passage and let it speak for itself. There is nothing in the text to impose the belief that "Jesus didn't command Lazarus" or "Jesus prayed to Lazarus."

even though so many of us admitted Catholics tell you we don’t partake in such a practice.

Which is it? Do you or do you not 'communicate' with dead saints?

1,030 posted on 12/07/2010 10:28:53 AM PST by dartuser ("The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has limits.")
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To: dartuser; Hegewisch Dupa
Since Jesus prayed to Lazarus ... why don't Catholics in general pray to Lazarus. Shouldnt you follow the example Christ gave and mix in a "Dear Lazarus" in between a Hail Mary and an Our Father?

When you pray to Lazarus, you're not supposed to pray with words. You're supposed to pray through interpretive dance. It's not in any scripture, but it's a tradition.

1,033 posted on 12/07/2010 10:34:39 AM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: dartuser; Hegewisch Dupa
mix in a "Dear Lazarus"

Would this be a prayer they can stick in the links of the rosary?

Dear Lazarus, I am sick. Can you help me? Who helped you when you were dead? We are told you, yourself, did. O mighty one, can you show me how you did it. Or can you hail Mary down, if you see her walking by?
1,048 posted on 12/07/2010 10:50:06 AM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the Word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: dartuser
The point that you know the poster was making - that Laz (the guy who died twice, not the guy who hits everything) had a choice in rising, was interesting. Not saying I agree with it. Certainly never heard it before. Nor did I ever hear of prayer defined in the terms used by the poster. But I understand the need, in lieu of actual evidence, for certain posters to take this as indicative of every Catholic’s belief in order to fuel their snarky comment machine. What fun!
1,084 posted on 12/07/2010 11:50:29 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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