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Was Mary Sinless?
The Aristophrenium ^ | 12/05/2010 | " Fisher"

Posted on 12/05/2010 6:14:57 PM PST by RnMomof7

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To: metmom
I recall it from The Muppet Show myself.

But, maybe it's just a Freudian slip, given the posting history of the FReeper in question, which is that of being a vocal evo, to the point of going over to that other site to plot strategy. As a result, I'd imagine it' was intended to be "yom."

They just love that one over there, think it's the way to slide evolution into Genesis. Never mind how the days of Creation were described, that clearly reinforce the literal interpretation, with the evening and the morning counted out with each successive day.

401 posted on 12/05/2010 9:53:43 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Deo volente; narses; Quix
I've been away from these threads for awhile, but see that nothing has changed.

This is worse than the "CREVO" threads!

402 posted on 12/05/2010 9:53:58 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: airborne; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

Actually, it’s not per se

PERSONS whom I disagree with

that per se trigger such images.

IT IS GROSS ABSURDITIES,

OUTRAGEOUS DUPLICITIES,

and otherwise horrific assertions that I’d just as soon not get embroiled in

in that post.

THEREFORE, an image fits the bill much better.

Sometimes, it’s because I think I’ve pontificated enough and prefer to just post pics.


403 posted on 12/05/2010 9:54:22 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: freedumb2003
God can clear from any and all!

God can do anything but HE never goes against His own Word.
404 posted on 12/05/2010 9:55:58 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: Judith Anne
Lots of rude behavior is acceptable. Proddies seem happiest when they can make Catholics angry, therefore....I vote we all laugh at all of them.

That would certainly be an improvement, no doubt about it.

Years ago, I thought the Religion Forum might be a great place to hang out, here on FR. What a joke! The RF is the sewer of the site.

And yet you're here.....

405 posted on 12/05/2010 9:56:01 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Now

THAT’S

blasphemy

[joke]


406 posted on 12/05/2010 9:57:22 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: metmom

>>What’s *nom* supposed to mean?<<

ARGH!!! Why did God give me such huge fingers to hit the wrong keys????

I meant “Yom!”

I wonder if this is like Snoopy when he yawned and let Lucy’s balloon go - he had to hit the road.

Please forgive me — and I am pretty sure you understand the “Yom” reference. Interestingly, “Nom” does mean something — “war” or “warlike” or “pertaining to war.”

How’s that for irony?

:)


407 posted on 12/05/2010 9:58:05 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Lt. Drebin: Like a blind man at an orgy, I was going to have to feel my way through.)
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To: freedumb2003

From my understanding, Mary was not charged with original sine because God new that Christ needed a mother. (According to Roman Catholic doctrine.)

If Mary had carried the guilt of “original sin”, then Christ would not have been sinless. If Christ carried original sin as a stain on his soul, he could never have been the perfect sacrifice that atoned for all of our sins.

Other christian faiths have often failed to provide a reasoned explanation of how Christ could be sinless when born of a human mother.

Does my pedestrian expression of the crux of the matter suffice? LOL


408 posted on 12/05/2010 9:58:11 PM PST by MortMan (To Obama "Kill them all and let [God] sort them out" is an abortion slogan.)
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To: freedumb2003
Thus even to this day, Catholic churches have altars to the different saints and people place "offerings" to them. The difference is that today, these are done as a token of love and respect.

I find the drug gangs demonstrations of love and respect for Santa Muerte particularly touching. Don't you?

409 posted on 12/05/2010 9:58:20 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Not gonna take it anymore
I wasn’t posting to you.

I know but I posted to you. Is that fearful to you?
410 posted on 12/05/2010 9:58:27 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: metmom

TOUCHE to the max.

Lots of things have their . . . wellll anyway.


411 posted on 12/05/2010 10:00:13 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: freedumb2003

NOPE:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2347476/posts


412 posted on 12/05/2010 10:00:56 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

I find it so funny how it’s the Catholics who want to control you, what you post, the pictures, your fonts, what you say. LOL!!

Control is manipulation which is witchcraft from the pit.


413 posted on 12/05/2010 10:01:33 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: freedumb2003

BTW - I’m an engineering-biased protestant (or “prostetant: as my original dogtag said) with a (Roman) Catholic wife and kids. LOL


414 posted on 12/05/2010 10:02:25 PM PST by MortMan (To Obama "Kill them all and let [God] sort them out" is an abortion slogan.)
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To: presently no screen name

But half the world?????

REALLY?????


415 posted on 12/05/2010 10:03:17 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Got some sources to back up that fantastically unbelievable claim?

Jeeze it is so steeply versed in lore it is hard to come up with "sources."

Go to Mexico City and see the Manta itself within the Basilica of Our Lady of Guadalupe and go up onto the spot where Juan Diego was given the roses (impossible to get that time of year) and the Manta itself.

As I said, the RCC has beatified (correct spelling this time I hope) and thus has accepted the event as Canon.

The same is true for the appearances of Mary as Our Lady of Fatima, Lourdes and others. She appears historically in very definable places when needed most.

If I was her I wouldn't wast my time appearing today. People are too cynical and detached from God.

416 posted on 12/05/2010 10:03:51 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Lt. Drebin: Like a blind man at an orgy, I was going to have to feel my way through.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Yeah,... I was suspecting that.


417 posted on 12/05/2010 10:04:32 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
given the posting history of the FReeper in question, which is that of being a vocal evo, to the point of going over to that other site to plot strategy. As a result, I'd imagine it' was intended to be "yom."

S(n)ide references are never pretty. God created Evolution as the way to create Man and so much more.

But beyond that I sayeth no more on this thread.

418 posted on 12/05/2010 10:05:48 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Lt. Drebin: Like a blind man at an orgy, I was going to have to feel my way through.)
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To: MortMan
If Mary had carried the guilt of “original sin”, then Christ would not have been sinless. If Christ carried original sin as a stain on his soul, he could never have been the perfect sacrifice that atoned for all of our sins.

... and if Mary's mother had carried the guilt of Original Sin, then Mary would not have been sinless. And if Mary's grandmother had carried the guilt of Original sin, then Mary's mother would not have been sinless.

You'd have to carry this line of reasoning all the way back to a sinless Eve, and we well know Eve was not sinless.

So, we accept scripture, that Jesus Christ was born of a virgin, Mary, who was herself in need of salvation, according to her own words.

Jesus Christ was sinless. Mary was not. Was she favored and even blessed? Yes, scripture tells us this. But it also tells us she was not sinless.

I do not understand the purpose of adding this Mariology as a result. It's not necessary to salvation and it's not supported by scripture.

That's why you see so many rebuking the belief on the FR Religion Forum.

419 posted on 12/05/2010 10:06:28 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: presently no screen name

I find it so funny how it’s the Catholics who want to control you, what you post, the pictures, your fonts, what you say. LOL!!

Control is manipulation which is witchcraft from the pit.


INDEED. Well put.

However, !!!!CONTROL!!!! is not a new theme in such exchanges.


420 posted on 12/05/2010 10:06:48 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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