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Was Mary Sinless?
The Aristophrenium ^ | 12/05/2010 | " Fisher"

Posted on 12/05/2010 6:14:57 PM PST by RnMomof7

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To: Grizzled Bear

In Catholicism and in Orthodoxy there is a difference between the Worship owed God alone (which includes adoration, sacrifice and I forget the other) Latria and that which is the reverence and devotion given to the Blessed Virgin, Hyperdulia and that given to the Saints, Dulia.

Because we believe in the Sacrifice of the Mass for us Worship of the Triune God is more than prayer, Bible readings and sermons. To us that would be a prayer service and a means of showing our devotion to God. But it would not be a complete act of Worship.


2,301 posted on 12/10/2010 9:20:19 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

NO sweat.

I still hold the record for number of times per month or quarter for confessing being wrong.

I don’t know what the stats are but that much is certain! LOL.


2,302 posted on 12/10/2010 9:21:05 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: narses

Thank you for freshening up this stinky thread.

Mary’s “Magnificat”...beautiful!


2,303 posted on 12/10/2010 9:26:07 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
You and I were part of a discussion and suddenly you called me a "troll."

I had intended to compare you to a troll who condemned the U.S. in much the same way you seemed to be condemning Catholics as NAZIs. You also seemed to imply I was some sort of Catholic collaborator. I certainly went a bit too far in the exchange and I'm sorry for the offense.

Even though I don't agree with much of the Catholic doctrine, I'll stick up for them if I think an accusation is out of line. I believed you were implying that modern day Catholics are NAZIs. Perhaps I was hasty in my interpretation.

Do we have a truce?

2,304 posted on 12/10/2010 9:29:18 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: narses

One bit of logic I’ve never been able to understand about the idea of the immaculate conception, is that, given this fallen world, if God can and did create sinless humans (like Rome says Mary, and possibly John were)before the cross, why in the world would He need to send Jesus to die for our sins?

He could of more easily just wiped sin out in one generation by causing EVERYONE’S conception to be immaculate.


2,305 posted on 12/10/2010 9:29:26 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns

God can do anything He wants. Omnipotence is, well, all powerful. The question is not what CAN God do, but what has He done and what does He want of us?


2,308 posted on 12/10/2010 9:39:28 PM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: Deo volente

:)


2,310 posted on 12/10/2010 9:40:35 PM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: AnalogReigns
Being All-powerful, God could have done anything He wanted. He could have forgiven Adam and Eve in the Garden right then and there and be done with it. However, He did not, but sent His Son to redeem the fallen human race.

Mary was redeemed and saved, but given a singular grace of being saved in ANTICIPATION of Jesus' redemptive sacrifice on the Cross. She was saved from sin BEFOREHAND, in light of His merits.

We've been over and over this, again and again on FR in literally tens of thousands of posts over hundreds of threads. Not blaming you...just making a general comment about the tiresome nature of these threads. You actually asked a good question.

2,311 posted on 12/10/2010 9:41:12 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: boatbums

Not likely as anyone could do that. Think of all the very ordinary things Jesus did that are not recorded.


2,312 posted on 12/10/2010 9:50:02 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Quix; Religion Moderator

Oooops sorry.

Thanks.

Great job.

Ya beat me to it while I was writing the post.

Yo da RM Supremo to the max, for sure!


2,314 posted on 12/10/2010 9:52:24 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
Love your humor.

So much of the ‘humor’ from the RC’s is mean-spirited, spiteful and vengeful.

You know that I'm not an RC, right?

2,315 posted on 12/10/2010 9:52:30 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear

I *ASSUMED*

you were not an RC.

I don’t

*KNOW*

a LOT of things! LOL.


2,316 posted on 12/10/2010 9:54:39 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Having a form of intelligence but denying the creativity thereof, they are reduced to the ‘I know I am but what are you’ line of answering their critics. If they continue to copy your photobucket account, may I suggest posting the Mary in the toast photos or Mary in the griddle photos. That should stop them from nanabooboo-ing your efforts. The risk is too great for them to take...


2,317 posted on 12/10/2010 9:57:01 PM PST by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: Quix
I *ASSUMED*

you were not an RC.

Sorry. My reading comprehension isn't that great tonight. It's been a long week!

2,318 posted on 12/10/2010 9:59:07 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: smvoice

Have pondered that suggestion for some time now.

I like it.

Just haven’t gotten around to searching the gifs out and setting them up on my photobucket account.

Besides, I think there are some special contexts that arise from time to time when they would carry the most punch. I’d like to save them for such situations—at least the first time.

LOL.


2,319 posted on 12/10/2010 10:04:22 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: smvoice; Quix
If they continue to copy your photobucket account, may I suggest posting the Mary in the toast photos or Mary in the griddle photos. That should stop them from nanabooboo-ing your efforts.

If that doesn't work you could always try something I did to a particularly insufferable barracks mate.

All we have to do is figure out where they are so we can get the oatmeal into their combat boots...

2,320 posted on 12/10/2010 10:04:56 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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