Thar ya go agin . . . pretending that RC's . . .
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Posted on 12/05/2010 6:14:57 PM PST by RnMomof7
No, I am not. Grace, the fruit of the sacraments, is the irreplaceable condition for Christian living, just as participation in the Church's Liturgy requires faith. If faith is not expressed in works, it is dead.
Condemnd if they do, condemned if they don’t.
It’s
!!!!TRADITION!!!!
from RC’s to Proddys hereon.
Thar ya go agin . . . pretending that RC's . . .
INDEED.
‘Tis but one of many of the Vatican AIWSOTARM’s
farcical contentions, assertions, dogmas.
Wonderful.
Excellent.
Thanks for the great history and important theological, Biblical points.
BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.
unlike the [ROMAN] Catholic church tho, we don't chase our exs down and kill them
INDEED. THX.
good to see it never gets personal here.
LOL
Thanks, you have all be been great. Remember to tip your waiter/waitresses and next time try the veal.
Blessings to one and all and your families and loved ones
:)
Your posts remind me of the annoying kid sister that tries so desperately to be noticed by her big sister's boyfriend. Grow up!
There are two reasons.
One is that you've already identified us as Protestants. That's as specific as saying that you're Catholic. Why do you want more?
The other is that our identifying faith is not a denomination. It's the Lord Jesus Christ and faith in Him alone for salvation.
There are true Christians in every church and there are unbelievers in every church, just differing percentages. Some have more Christians and some have fewer.
Since church membership is not what saves one, it's irrelevant which specific denomination one affiliates oneself with.
The other reason that people are hesitant to reveal churches by name is because of confidentiality. By knowing where someone lives and what denomination they affiliate with, it would be far too easy to track them down and identify them, and there are plenty of kooks out there in the world who I would now want to know how to find me. I like my nice peaceful existence. People who take stands for righteousness and Christianity have been known to get death threats from the unhinged God hating left.
Would you tell others on this forum what specific Catholic parish you attend in what specific city?
When this happened to my at that time girl friend I had a one on one in spirit with The Lord. Some believers may say rubbish but I know and understand what happened and why. Through that message given me I was able to make some hard choices some of which I was not capable of handling of my own maturity or even educational knowledge to take on. In a few weeks time I became a caregiver to my wife and a father to teenagers. I was 27.
If anyone thinks getting a message from The Lord means things will be easy or all A OK think again.
After we got married and settled another call was placed on me. One I said yes to at that time because of overwhelming conviction to do so. I said yes and it was gone. For a number of years I questioned it and wondered why I was asked to do it especially under what was already more on my plate than I thought I could handle. I talked to my preacher and he wisely said pray on it. I did and still felt no further calling. Getting before people and speaking is the last thing I want to do. Then my own medical issues began to become more acute. Ones I had dealt with for nearly 30 years since birth.
Why would GOD ask something of me then leave me hanging. He didn't leave me hanging rather I was impatient LOL. That answer came to me much later actually. You're reading it. A person call witness and preach The Gospel in many venues. When I had a calling I didn't even own a computer and never thought I would I had no interest in such. I realize now what that calling was. But when I received it I wasn't ready. In the Bible GOD calls many persons to do things. The thing GOD calls them to do may not come till even decades later in their life. What I have is my experiences with my walk with The Lord. All I can do is share them hoping it helps someone facing what seems an impossible situation.
I believe churches need to return to basics and stop being so wrapped up in denominational dogmas and I say that to all including Southern Baptist where I was raised in. Christ gave us a simple message and a simple way to go. The old way of trying to live the laws and being justified living in them failed by that I mean the Jewish laws which would confound anyone and keep them busy 24/7 trying to abide in them. Even the Disciples were careful to leave it basic. They themselves had to overcome the desire to live under the old laws. Christ did what man could not.
I do not believe in name it claim it theology either or the Gospel of Prosperity. No indeed the chosen of Christ lived often in poverty, in prison, etc. That is not to say prosperity is a sin because it isn't. But GOD is not going to buy anyone a Mercedes Benz. LOL. He leaves that up to you.
When related to the Gospel and The Bible I can concentrate and GOD allows me to keep my energy and thought train. Yet I have trouble with one on one converstaions with my parents or my wife. GOD works in many mysterious ways to His Glory through our weaknesses.
We can’t do enough and good enough works to get into heaven.
The Pharisees kept the Law blamelessly and Jesus said our righteousness needed to exceed theirs.
If they couldn’t get into heaven based on works and they did so well at keeping the Law, how can we think we can do it.
The Law was put in charge to lead us to Christ. It never was meant as a means to earn salvation.
If the Law that God instituted among men through Moses was incapable of saving, then any replacement law that men decide to institute is not going to do any better.
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Proverbs 16:18 Pride goes before destruction,and a haughty spirit before a fall.
I'm not proud of the church I attend, nor ashamed of it. It's merely a meeting place for worship and equipping the saints. When we move again, we'll find another church which may or may not be the same denomination.
1 Corinthians 1:30-31 30And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption, 31so that, as it is written, "Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord."
1 Corinthians 1:11-13 For it has been reported to me by Chloe’s people that there is quarreling among you, my brothers. What I mean is that each one of you says, "I follow Paul," or "I follow Apollos," or "I follow Cephas," or "I follow Christ." Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?
Likewise, was Peter crucified for you or were you baptized in the name of Peter?
Our faith is in Christ. We are followers of HIM not something or someone else.
I have two more programs one which has about seven translations I think. With me program simplicity is a friend LOL. What I'd really like to get is Revell Bible Dictionary and the Holman Bible Dictionary on CD Rom. I already have the books though. Maybe one of these days.
Sorry, but there is just one Catholic Church, headquarters the Vatican.
Your did not actually have to read the links to see that your charge that no one challenged the apocrypha before Luther is manifestly false, as was abundantly documented right before your eyes, including by Roman Catholic historian (and expert on Trent) Hubert Jedin, and which others affirm.
Instead of having the decency to make a specific argument, you post links to sites that you refer to as “documented history”.
“Decency to post a specific argument?” You said that Martin Luther wanted to toss Revelation , along with the Epistle of James and the Letter to the Hebrews, as if he were the first to question such or the Apocrypha, and in response i provided much substantiated evidence from from that historian, among other sources, that this was not the case, nor had a “infallible and final definition of the Roman Catholic canon been issued until Trent, as the referenced New Catholic Encyclopedia stated.
I could post links to sites as well, but consider that to be cowardice. I posted the canons, you can cry “ignorant” all you want. Trent was in response to Luther!
Posting links to over 1,000 words of carefully formatted material from their sites is cowardice? And yet regardless of the evidence, your only “substantiation” is to post the books of the most standard list, which is not the issue, and which does not prove there was no disagreement within Trent and before it, so you can more boldly state, “The reason why the Trent list is the first infallible pronouncement of the list is because nobody ever challenged it before Luther!” As for Trent being in response to Luther,” that is moving the goal posts, as that was not the issue, but that Luther was the first to challenge the disputed books. Do you suppose that basically tossing documented evidence, and then more boldly stating a claim, and that an argument predicated upon “if I remember correctly,” and “I'm going from memory here” is courageous?
I do not want too hard on you, but it would be better if you were more careful and reasonable. Good night.
Your post meant a great deal to me and I sincerely thank you for sharing your burdens and joys with us. God is truly wonderful and gracious and each one of us has a special purpose that our Heavenly Father has designed precisely for us, in our time and space. I rejoice with you in how he provides for our deepest longings and needs. I will pray for you and your family to grow even closer to the Lord and each other.
Thank you, apology accepted.
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