Posted on 12/05/2010 6:14:57 PM PST by RnMomof7
I’m all tangled up
Now give and explain the context of this verse because out of the context you represent it to mean something completely different than the lesson that Jesus was teaching. He was NOT referring to all tradition.
Particularly those which impugn, nullify or A clear reading of Mark 7:1-23 will reveal
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
that Yah'shua was addressing the delegation
from the High Priest( Pope ) and rebuking all
of the Traditions of man coming from the Religious Elites.
cancel the Holy Word of G-d. NAU Mark 7:1 The Pharisees and some of the scribes gathered around Him when they had come from Jerusalem,
2 and had seen that some of His disciples were eating their bread with impure hands, that is, unwashed.
3 (For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they carefully wash their hands, thus observing the traditions of the elders;
4 and when they come from the market place, they do not eat unless they cleanse themselves; and there are many other things which they have received in order to observe, such as the washing of cups and pitchers and copper pots.)
5 The Pharisees and the scribes asked Him, "Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat their bread with impure hands?"
6 And He said to them, "Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: 'THIS PEOPLE HONORS ME WITH THEIR LIPS, BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR AWAY FROM ME.
7 'BUT IN VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP ME, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE PRECEPTS OF MEN.'
8 "Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men."
9 He was also saying to them, "You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition.
10 "For Moses said, 'HONOR YOUR FATHER AND YOUR MOTHER'; and, 'HE WHO SPEAKS EVIL OF FATHER OR MOTHER, IS TO BE PUT TO DEATH';
11 but you say, 'If a man says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is to say, given to God),'
12 you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or his mother;
13 thus invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that."
14 After He called the crowd to Him again, He began saying to them, "Listen to Me, all of you, and understand:
15 there is nothing outside the man which can defile him if it goes into him; but the things which proceed out of the man are what defile the man.
16 "If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear."
17 When he had left the crowd and entered the house, His disciples questioned Him about the parable.
18 And He said to them, "Are you so lacking in understanding also? Do you not understand that whatever goes into the man from outside cannot defile him,
19 because it does not go into his heart, but into his stomach, and is eliminated?" (Thus He declared all foods clean.)
20 And He was saying, "That which proceeds out of the man, that is what defiles the man.
21 "For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed the evil thoughts, fornications, thefts, murders, adulteries,
22 deeds of coveting and wickedness, as well as deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride and foolishness.
23 "All these evil things proceed from within and defile the man."
lol
Could it be that wigglebee is afraid that we “anti-Catholics” married to lapsed Romanists, remember they can check out but never leave the Hotel Cathlicfornia, will somehow be able to ride the coattails of our spouses to heaven and this is why he is so adamant to deny we are actually married to lapsed Romanists?
Try to keep up, I've NEVER said that any Christians serve Satan.
Do not think that I consider the vast majority of anti-Cathooics to be Christians, because I don't.
hmmmm. Is that an advertisement to come to your circus?
‘I’ve fallen and can’t get up, oh laz, please hear my cry’
Those traditions which are part of the Revealed Word.
No, it was crack in graphical form in reply to Quix’s toothless man graphic.
It has nothing to do with me or my opinion. Read your own catechism...
"they (the authors) consigned to writing whatever (God) wanted written, and no more."
The writers of the Scriptures were scribes, putting down onto paper what God wanted men to know.
"And no more."
Roman Catholics dismiss the word of God, especially Paul's writings, to their own detriment.
Clearly they do so because 1) they don't read Paul and thus they don't know what he wrote; and/or 2) Paul's writings contradict and deny the beliefs and practices of Roman Catholicism.
For the last time, I have NEVER denounced a single Christian as a servant of Satan.
WAGGLEBEE: "However, I can see where this confusing for anti-Catholics, they nominally worship Paul as their god (though they are actually serving Satan)."
Let's clear this up. You've used the term "anti-Catholic" dozens of times on this forum in discussions with Protestants. I don't recall any Jews or Hindus or Buddhists or Quakers in these discussions. So far, it would appear that every time you've referred to an "anti-Catholic," you have been addressing Protestant Christians on this forum.
And those Protestant Christians you have declared to be "actually serving Satan."
Clintonista
let's see-- you said the "antiCatholics" (whatever they are) "worship Paul as their god and serve Satan", in reference to the posters here claiming to be Christians and quoting Paul's words in the bible
Then you said that *you* dont consider any of the "antiCatholics" *except a handful to be Christians.*
it follows then, that all those that *you* --in spite of the posters claims to be Christian--- do not consider Christian, along with the handful that *you* do concede are Christian antiCatholics, worship Paul as their god and serve Satan.
so, yes you said it.
So your interpretation of "a clear reading" permits you to inject your own biases into the Word. That explains how you got to the spiritual dead end you appear to have reached.
I never played the “race card” — I merely noted that many in certain groups operate from an elitist and racist foundation.
And this thread is going in circles — the haters will hate and the lovers will love, facts are fact, opinions are opinions and God sees into the souls of all men.
that’s right, we are now in possession of the secret password
HUH???
I can’t help you, I’m all wrapped up in something at the moment
I’m quoting a post by Wagglebee, but by now he probably never said any such thing
I didn’t see the humor but that man was indeed funny and even he was laughing. Thanks, Quix, those pictures of laughter is a good thing!
Proverbs 17:2 A joyful heart is good medicine, but a crushed spirit dries up the bones.
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