Posted on 12/05/2010 6:14:57 PM PST by RnMomof7
Can not an ordinary Jewish girl be a special woman ?
Isaiah 29 “The Lord says: “These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is made up only of rules taught by men”.
. Ecclesiastes 9:5 & Psalm 146:4
Sorry for the redundancy in the above; something got messed up in the coding and i did not see it in my haste.
Ah ... Catholic inflexibility when it is needed ... since Paul only said "all" and not "all except Christ" that opens up the door to nullify the Word of God with your tradition by claiming Mary is also an exception to "all." Got it ...
I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel. (Genesis 3:15)
What is that? The New Catholic Translation? Quite a departure from NASB. I couldnt find any translation on biblegateway that supports your translation. Thats beside the point though ... What is your evidence that "she" is Mary ... at this point in history ... the only "she" was Eve.
You’re just hysterical to think you are former Catholics, married to one or an ex-one, and that you have Catholic family. Nor are any of you married to any, you are delusional. And the 89 year old Catholic MIL I built a house for on my property and we are the sole caretakers of? An illusion, we are as cuckoo as two cocoa puffs
now you are winding me up
Where did Christ or the apostles ever teach that the dead, even if in heaven , can interceded for us?
Where do the scriptures tell you to direct your prayers? (1Ti 2:5)
Scripture tells us that when Christ died, the veil of the temple..the veil that separated men from God, from the Holy of Holies in the Temple ..the curtain that only the High priest could go behind one time a year to mediate for the sins of Israel ...that curtain was ripped in 2, allowing men to have full access to God without a priest. Now we can enter into the throne room of God through Christ..not His mother, not our deceased family members, not the deceased saints.. but through Christ and Christ alone
Hbr 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
wagglebee: Actually, God didn't say that, Saint Paul wrote it.
Wow. So Rome has now stayed so far from orthodox Christianity as to deny the inspired Scriptures are God-breathed. Your own catechism refutes your error...
107 - The inspired books teach the truth. "Since therefore all that the inspired authors or sacred writers affirm should be regarded as affirmed by the Holy Spirit, we must acknowledge that the books of Scripture firmly, faithfully, and without error teach that truth which God, for the sake of our salvation, wished to see confided to the Sacred Scriptures."106 - God inspired the human authors of the sacred books. "To compose the sacred books, God chose certain men who, all the while he employed them in this task, made full use of their own faculties and powers so that, though he acted in them and by them, it was as true authors that they consigned to writing whatever he wanted written, and no more."
Now, as is the way of Rome, the RCC catechism goes on to hedge and dodge and double-speak the truth it just recorded in 106 and 107. But the fact remains, Rome considers the "all" the Scriptures to be "affirmed by the Holy Spirit" and that the authors wrote "whatever (God) wanted written, and no more."
Apparently you are at odds with your own catechism in your denial that God through Paul authored the Scriptures.
However, I can see where this confusing for anti-Catholics, they nominally worship Paul as their god (though they are actually serving Satan).
Pathetic. We speak of errant practices and beliefs within the RCC and you denounce Christians as servants of Satan.
"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction." -- 2 Peter 2:1
"...even dying the Lord that bought them."
RC apologists had better hope that "denial" does not include denying God's inspired word and denying the fact that it was God who wrote the Scriptures in order to tell them the Good News of Jesus Christ. Sadly, some RCs would have the world believe "God didn't say that, Saint Paul wrote it."
And it was right on! Not much hope they will see it though.
It’s much worse to say that Christians, (and yes he did concede that he considered “a handful” of what he considers “antiCatholics” to be Christians, who then are indwelt by the HS,) serve Satan
That doesn't explain Mark 7 and your out of context citation. No single Scriptural principle can be adequately conveyed with a single verse.
The Word of God is a tapestry of interdependent and interrelated thoughts. No single thread or source of light does it justice. The catholic Mass recognizes this and provides an Old Testament verse, a New Testament verse and a quotation from Christ Himself and follows it up with a homily tying them together and elaborating on the concept. The Protestant practice of using single out of context versus as factoids and sound bites to support their Scriptural assertions is about as disingenuous as an Obama campaign commercial.
Well at least my friend didn’t say Paul was nuts
You know very well that Catholics believe Scripture is inspired. What we do not believe is that God dictated the words and the writers acted only as passive receivers of those words.
“Those divinely revealed realities which are contained and presented in Sacred Scripture have been committed to writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. For holy mother Church, relying on the belief of the Apostles (see John 20:31; 2 Tim. 3:16; 2 Peter 1:19-20, 3:15-16), holds that the books of both the Old and New Testaments in their entirety, with all their parts, are sacred and canonical because written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, they have God as their author and have been handed on as such to the Church herself.(1) In composing the sacred books, God chose men and while employed by Him (2) they made use of their powers and abilities, so that with Him acting in them and through them, (3) they, as true authors, consigned to writing everything and only those things which He wanted. (4)”
Let us see you retract the erroneous statement you made. Crickets.
Tell us oh mighty one - which tradition was He not addressing.
Apparently you are at odds with your own catechism in your denial that God through Paul authored the Scriptures.
No, I'm at odds with YOUR INTERPRETATION of the Catechism.
We speak of errant practices and beliefs within the RCC and you denounce Christians as servants of Satan.
For the last time, I have NEVER denounced a single Christian as a servant of Satan.
Just curious, are you ever going to join a religion that believes in actually reading the Gospels and doesn't really strictly on the epistles of Saint Paul? The OPC routinely goes months without hearing a single verse of the Gospels read in their Sunday morning services.
This may be of interest: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/The_Lord%27s_Supper.htm
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