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The temple sacrifice of Moses has ended because it was completed by Christ . . .

So why the heck was Paul making a pilgrimage to Jerusalem for the express purpose of offering sacrifices and paying for the sacrifices of four other Jewish believers thirty years later? Did he not get the memo?

Seriously, have you ever actually studied the book of Acts?

Rabbinical Judaism is based on the post-Messianic Talmud scripture.

I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to call into question your qualifications to speak for Judaism. Exactly how many hours have you spent actually reading the Mishnah again? Do you even know what it is, or how it fits into Jewish life? Do you know how many compilations of Jewish law have been made since? Do you know the rabbinic addage, "Rabbi Judah's mishnah was only for the generation of Rabbi Judah," and what it means?

No, and I doubt you'll go look it up, either. You're too caught up in your little fantasy that those stiffnecked and impious Jews tossed aside the Scriptures for another book while you, noble Christian that you are, are keeping the true faith and have been true to the Bible.

Well, you know, except for that first 4/5ths that you pretty much ignore except when it suits you. Why? Because that's what your Christian tradition tells you to do. All too well you set aside the Word of God for the sake of your tradition.

And quit playing the word games. David was the Mashiach (annointed with oil by Samuel) long before he sat enthroned in Jerusalem as King. Why should it surprise you that the Son of David might also experience a gap between His being Mashiach and actually sitting on His father's throne in Jerusalem?

Again, Hagee's point was that Yeshua did not come to be the Melekh HaMashiach, the Annointed King, and lead Israel's armies to victory--which is what the word "Messiah" means to most Jews--in His First Coming. Like Joseph, Moses, David, and others before Him, He was first rejected by his brothers and went for many years among the Gentiles.

But like Joseph, Moses, David, et. al., He will return to rule over the brothers who initially rejected Him.

You are correct that the true Gospel is a continuation of the religion of the Torah. But what you are preaching is not the true Gospel.

The temple sacrifice of Moses has ended because it was completed by Christ . . .
So why the heck was Paul making a pilgrimage to Jerusalem for the express purpose of offering sacrifices and paying for the sacrifices of four other Jewish believers thirty years later? Did he not get the memo?

Matthew 27:50 "And Jesus again crying with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. 51 And behold the veil of the temple was rent in two from the top even to the bottom, and the earth quaked, and the rocks were rent."

The import of of the taring of the temple veil was probably not fully understood until the destruction of the temple took place as prophesied by Christ.

Rabbinical Judaism is based on the post-Messianic Talmud scripture.
I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to call into question your qualifications to speak for Judaism.

I do not profess any qualifications but I had understood that rabbinical Judaism uses the Talmud as Scripture and that it considers the Trinity doctrine to be a belief in three gods instead of one.

You're too caught up in your little fantasy that those stiffnecked and impious Jews tossed aside the Scriptures for another book while you, noble Christian that you are, are keeping the true faith and have been true to the Bible. Well, you know, except for that first 4/5ths that you pretty much ignore except when it suits you. Why? Because that's what your Christian tradition tells you to do. All too well you set aside the Word of God for the sake of your tradition.

You are not the reader of my soul. Yes, I try to put forth arguments that are based on Sacred Tradition, inclusive of Scripture. If you find my argument lacking, point out the flaw. That should be enough.

2 Thes 2:15: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle"

Hagee's point was that Yeshua did not come to be the Melekh HaMashiach, the Annointed King, and lead Israel's armies to victory--which is what the word "Messiah" means to most Jews--in His First Coming.

It was clear that most of the Jews at first misunderstood the mission of the Messiah, even His own disciples:

Acts 1:6: "They therefore who were come together, asked him, saying: Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7 But he said to them: It is not for you to know the times or moments, which the Father hath put in his own power: 8 But you shall receive the power of the Holy Ghost coming upon you, and you shall be witnesses unto me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and Samaria, and even to the uttermost part of the earth."

After receiving the Holy Ghost, Peter says:

Acts 2:32: "This Jesus hath God raised again, whereof all we are witnesses. 33 Being exalted therefore by the right hand of God, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath poured forth this which you see and hear. 34 For David ascended not into heaven; but he himself said: The Lord said to my Lord, sit thou on my right hand, 35 Until I make thy enemies thy footstool. 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know most certainly, that God hath made both Lord and Christ, this same Jesus"

But what you are preaching is not the true Gospel.

I am only trying to repeat what I understand to be the Tradition passed down from the Apostles.

Huh Buggman? No way would i think of speaking for Jews. I'm merely a student. As for Christianity I'm a little more versed. Let's see, Pastor Hagee? I've heard him twice, didn't like his message. Too rich, and got most of it flecing his followers, also i think, not sure he's into replacement theology also, could be wrong.Re: Mishnah, a couple times but as I said, nope not a scholar. I've only a few years studying hebrew, so I read like, maybe a third grader, B avg, not great, not bad. I'm terrible sans vowels.

I've even read the talmud also, some of maiminodes( didn't understand all he was writing by far, Nachmiodes, and have a couple Torah's and a tanakh both in Hebrew,English, one by herch the other, dang can't remember off the top of my head.

What exactly set you off on my comments to another person? I didn't read the links all the way through; was there something in them you are pertubed about? I'm a bit confused here. one person I was responing to was speaking aout a certain person that started dispensationalism. itried explaining re that and replacement theology that Christians have been using this theology to rationalize and justify killing Jews for a long time.

As for the Amish as I stated, I thought it was kind of them to fly all the way to Israel to apologize for their past spite toward Jews. But being one I believe I can speak for myself. Sorry but it's in the blood despite my messianic beliefs.