It’s getting more and more painful. My husband is ND ‘81. Three of his siblings are alum, his father, his cousins, and his niece is ND ‘13. We still pray for the University [a lot], and my husband watches their football games, but this is horrible. Joe Scheidler from Pro-Life Action League, brought Jenkins aside at the March for Life, Washington, earlier this year, because Jenkins refused to meet with Joe (an alum as well) privately, and Scheidler said talking to Jenkins was like talking to a stone.