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Crystal Cathedral had its day
The Guardian ^ | Nov. 5, 2010 | Harriet Baber

Posted on 11/12/2010 10:13:27 PM PST by hiho hiho

On 18 October 2010, Southern California's landmark Crystal Cathedral, the prototype of all late 20th Century American Megachurches, filed for bankruptcy. I drove up the following Sunday to get a look at the place while it was still in operation.

The Crystal Cathedral proper, a spectacular glass structure designed by Philip Johnson and completed in 1980, dominates a landscaped campus that includes the congregation's original church building, designed by Richard Neutra, Richard Meier's "Welcoming Center", and a variety of other buildings, reflecting pools and religiously themed statuary. A German tourist prevailed on me to take a picture of him and his wife posing in a larger-than-life tableau of Jesus as Good Shepherd.

The campus and decor are the culmination of a high-church revival in American Protestantism that began in the 19th century. It was then that evangelical Christians, who had traditionally assembled in meeting houses and preaching halls, constructed faux-Gothic edifices, dressed their preachers in gowns, and "beautified" their services, exchanging tedium for vulgarity. By the mid-20th century, they had appropriated all the "potent symbols of cinema secularism" theologian Reinhold Niebuhr described in his rendition of an evangelical Easter service conducted, as was not uncommon, in a movie theatre:

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I thought religion was a window into heaven, into another world of power, glory and intensity, to the contemplation of divine beauty. When I got religion, I never imagined this flat, dull evangelicalism.

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TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: christians; crystalcathedral; evangelicals; megachurch; socal
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1 posted on 11/12/2010 10:13:31 PM PST by hiho hiho
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To: hiho hiho

Sad read, not because I care about Schuller, but what he has done in the name (nominally) of Jesus.


2 posted on 11/12/2010 10:28:45 PM PST by norge (The amiable dunce is back, wearing a skirt and high heels.)
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To: hiho hiho

Sad read, not because I care about Schuller, but what he has done in the name (nominally) of Jesus.


3 posted on 11/12/2010 10:28:49 PM PST by norge (The amiable dunce is back, wearing a skirt and high heels.)
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To: hiho hiho
When I got religion, I never imagined this flat, dull evangelicalism.

I recall a line from one of Vonnegut's later novels - "What is more Protean than adultery. Nothing."

Maybe spirituality is more Protean than adultery ... I feel sure of it.

4 posted on 11/12/2010 10:31:18 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: guerito1

Now maybe the neighbor can buy the church’s property AFTER the church goes begging to him! I always like happy endings.

I don’t see it as a Christian Church at all - since it’s all about man and not about Christ. However, my opinion is from watching it 2x’s - one when the owner spoke and then his son.

Why do they wear gowns? Are they affiliated with some denomination or is this their own creation?


6 posted on 11/12/2010 10:53:10 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: guerito1

There was a church in Cashmere, Washington in, I believe, the late 70’s or early 80’s that was “the church to go to” if you were anybody. They had a building program that inspired members to mortgage their homes to give to the “building program”. And a lot of people did.

Then one day an officer of the church ran off with the money.


7 posted on 11/12/2010 10:53:23 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: hiho hiho

“Beyond that, as a religious believer I was disheartened. Was this all religion was: Cheerful platitudes and advice for successful living? Recipes for doing well in this world and the next? A pleasant place to pass an hour or two: an uplifting programme, brunch in the Welcoming Center and a stroll through the grounds?

I thought religion was a window into heaven, into another world of power, glory and intensity, to the contemplation of divine beauty. When I got religion, I never imagined this flat, dull evangelicalism.”

Wow. Good article.


8 posted on 11/12/2010 11:09:11 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: hiho hiho

“Beyond that, as a religious believer I was disheartened. Was this all religion was: Cheerful platitudes and advice for successful living? Recipes for doing well in this world and the next? A pleasant place to pass an hour or two: an uplifting programme, brunch in the Welcoming Center and a stroll through the grounds?

I thought religion was a window into heaven, into another world of power, glory and intensity, to the contemplation of divine beauty. When I got religion, I never imagined this flat, dull evangelicalism.”

Wow. Good article.


9 posted on 11/12/2010 11:09:20 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: dr_lew

I searched for “protean adultery” just to see if I could nail the source, and the first hits were my own FR posting! Then there was some crazy site loaded with ads and links with the title “KURT VONNEGUT JAILBIRD BY THE SAME AUTHOR PLAYER PIANO THE SIRENS” ... well, I guess that would be THE SIRENS OF TITAN. Anyway, I think JAILBIRD was it, but I don’t see any other mention of it at this site! It’s all getting too weird for me.


12 posted on 11/12/2010 11:35:41 PM PST by dr_lew
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He and his whole family are extremely unpleasant neighbors. I’m just sayin. Not good people.


13 posted on 11/12/2010 11:38:57 PM PST by Yaelle
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As a practicing Christian then, and now, I have always believed that it doesn’t necessarily matter

amen! give me an old, run-down barn... that would work just fine!

14 posted on 11/12/2010 11:42:29 PM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: hiho hiho
All I know about Jesus I learned from carefully reading Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John (not in that order, though). It's strictly my opinion, of course, but I have a feeling Jesus would be embarrassed by this:


15 posted on 11/12/2010 11:42:56 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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He originally comes from dutch reform church of america.


16 posted on 11/12/2010 11:46:47 PM PST by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: guerito1
Made me physically ill listening to them.

I know, it did the same to me. I didn't 'stay toned' - I was flicking through and paused a bit. I hope those members come to learn that is not Christian not matter what they call that Church.
17 posted on 11/12/2010 11:49:22 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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Thank you. Whatever that is dutch reform church of america., is he the same as them - or is this his own creation - what he wants church to be.
18 posted on 11/12/2010 11:52:06 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: latina4dubya

We can have ‘church’ anywhere as the HS leads. YES!


20 posted on 11/12/2010 11:56:54 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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