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To: Gamecock
I wish all Protestants would read former evangelical, now Catholic, Mark Shea's trilogy on Mary. This would clear up a lot of confusion. Catholics do not worship Mary. She is fully human, not divine.

If you are too lazy to read Mark's books, you might want to consider reading John Henry Newman's “An Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine”. He was an Anglican that wanted to understand the origins of Catholic doctrines concerning Mary (which he did not agree with at first). After his study he eventually joined the Catholic Church. Here is a link:

http://www.newmanreader.org/works/development/index.html

Finally I left the schismatic, subjective wilderness of evangelical Protestantism 6 years ago when I discovered the fallacies of Sola Scriptura and the beauty of true historical Christianity—as it has always been practiced for 2000 years.

Sola Scriptura is not part of any historical orthodox Christian tradition. Every early church quote I have read by Protestants are from those who also attest to the authority of tradition and the church—never Sola Scriptura. Saying that scripture is without error and inspired proves nothing since Catholics (and Eastern Orthodox) also affirm the same.

Sola Scriptura is contradicted in scripture (for example — 1 Tim. 3:15, Matt 16 and Matt 18 — which speak to the authority of the church and 1 Corinthians 11:2 and 2 Thessalonians 2:15 — which speak to the authority of apostolic tradition.)

No quote from scripture can be used to support Sola Scriptura. This is simply a theological assumption.

Also, all Marian doctrines do have implicit support from scripture. Once you start connecting the dots you can clearly see them. There are plenty of good articles on www.catholic.com about the scriptural support for Marian doctrines.

I will ask our mother (Rev 12:17) to pray for you all. Her prayers are powerful.

God bless

23 posted on 11/09/2010 5:36:46 PM PST by CatholicTim
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To: CatholicTim

It’s not about laziness. It’s about being a useful idiot for the evil one. It burns in their hearts.


24 posted on 11/09/2010 5:43:44 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("[T]here is nothing so aggravating [in life] as being condescended to by an idiot" ~ Ann Coulter)
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To: CatholicTim
I wish all Protestants would read former evangelical, now Catholic, Mark Shea's trilogy on Mary.

You'll find a more receptive audience for Shea over on Democratic Underground:
Who Is Mark Shea Talking About?
Capitalism, Colossians and the Miller Brewing Company
The Perspicuity of Scripture and Other Creation Myths
The Semi-Permeable Membranes of the Various Protestantisms [2009 thread]
The Semi-Permeable Membranes of the Various Protestantisms [2010 repost]
Big Laws and Small Laws [Mark Shea on "Nanny Staters" vs the "Right Wing Noise Machine"]

25 posted on 11/09/2010 5:43:49 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: CatholicTim
We know. You don't "worship" Mary. You, what is the word, hyperdulia Mary. What is the verb for hyperdulia?

He was an Anglican that wanted to understand the origins of Catholic doctrines concerning Mary (which he did not agree with at first). After his study he eventually joined the Catholic Church.

Too bad his "study" wasn't the study of 2 Tim. 2:15. "STUDY to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." Of course he ended up joining the Catholic Church. That is where all who ignore/refuse to study God's word, rightly divided, end up. That, and connecting imaginary dots to IMPLICIT poofs of Scripture, buried so deep between the lines you could strike oil before you strike a meaning you like.

26 posted on 11/09/2010 6:05:55 PM PST by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: CatholicTim

>>Sola Scriptura is not part of any historical orthodox Christian tradition.<<

See post 30


32 posted on 11/09/2010 6:57:22 PM PST by CynicalBear
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