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To: Frapster
Thank you so much for posting this! You could not have known I was searching for a way to express something to precious souls who post at FR and are under demonic influence regarding the Gospel of God's Grace. But there it was, right in the passage at the link:

"He didn’t come to take part; He came to take over as the Captain of the Lord’s Hosts!"

Mormonism has a twisted belief in works and faith and how if Mormons are righteous enough in life God's Spirit will count God's Grace for them, adding to their works the atonement Jesus accomplished on Calvary. But that is contrary to what the Bible teaches. And now I have the phrase I was searching for to share with them!

When a person is Born Again, they are to have Him come into their human spirit and take over, not share their struggle from outside while they seek to 'do all that they can do' to earn the Gift of God's Grace in Christ Jesus. The 'taking over' takes longer with some (like me) and happens much quicker with others. But God's Promise is that He will never leave us or forsake us once we are Born Again. It takes the presence of God in our human spirit to manifest the Life of God in our behavior.

2 posted on 11/09/2010 4:35:34 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

His sufficiency is enough, right? What I see in most conservative religions (and I fit in there) is that we are reluctant to trust God to mean what He says about completing what he started in us but to trust that He means the same for those around us as well. Somehow a belief that we have something to add gives us a sense of security (false as it is). As a result we corrupt the spiritual response to God’s grace by trying to add to it.

Another picture is the nation of Israel - when given the opportunity they asked for a man to rule them rather than letting God be their ruler. We can’t trust in the spirituality of it - it offends our carnal nature. We expect ourselves and others (more so) to accede to some ideal ... what’s ironic is that ideal, when exposed to the light, is less than God’s best... always.

God bless you!


3 posted on 11/09/2010 9:33:53 PM PST by Frapster (Watching my country change one economic sector at a time.)
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