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To: quadrant
No true Christian can fail to support Israel, for it is the embodiment of God's will for Jews.

False. One may have geopolitical reasons for supporting modern Israel, but it is sin against truth to say there is a Christian obligation to do so. "Christian" Zionism is the Nineteenth Century invention of John Darby taken up by charlatans such as John Scofield and John Hagee. The worldly doctrine is entirely dependent upon novel interpretation of opaque prophesy and is directly contradicted by the clear teachings of the Gospels and Epistles.

7 posted on 11/07/2010 9:10:58 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor
Not so. The US has important “geopolitical” reasons for supporting Israel, but those are not the only reasons - or even the most compelling - for supporting the Jewish state.
In fact it may be argued with some slight validity that supporting Israel is against the “geopolitical” interests of the US. I don't believe that, but I admit an argument can be made for that position.
Never read a word of John Darby or John Scofield and their opinions mean nothing to me. I do my best to ignore Mr Hagee. Please detail for me the “clear teachings” of the Gospels and the Epistles that forbid Christians from supporting Israel. I've read both several times and never reached that conclusion to any degree whatsoever. Prophesies that give the land the Jews and predict the reestablishment of Israel may be opaque to you, but they are clear to me and many others. Moreover, the Gospels and the Epistles are the most important parts of the Bible for Christians, but those sections are not the only parts. The Bible for Christians should be as seamless as Jesus’ cloak.
8 posted on 11/07/2010 10:20:26 AM PST by quadrant (1o)
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To: mas cerveza por favor
>>The worldly doctrine is entirely dependent upon novel interpretation of opaque prophesy and is directly contradicted by the clear teachings of the Gospels and Epistles.<<

If you believe that your interpretation of forever is much different then anyone I have ever encountered or any dictionary for that matter.

9 posted on 11/07/2010 10:20:59 AM PST by CynicalBear
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