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You post lots of words and they say nothing.

I have brought no charge against Christ, but you have indeed shown that you answered *yes* to the question.

Jesus called the cup *the fruit of the vine*.

Catholics want to have their cake and eat it too. They claim that it’s both as the same time, but that can’t be. If Jesus said that it was His blood and Catholics insist that it really is, then He was either lying when He called it the fruit of the vine, or He violated the Law that He claimed He came to fulfill. Either one would render Him incapable of being the spotless lamb of God who died for the sins of the world. He would have sinned if He had actually drank His own blood.

So, the choice is the Catholics. Was it really blood that He and they drank, which made them lawbreakers and liars?

Or was it wine that they drank as a symbolic representation of what He was going to do?

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Or was Christ instituting the Sacrament of Holy Eucharist as Scripture attests, and the Apostles believed and the One Holy and Apostolic Church believes to this day?

Once you leave the Church so much is lost: The Sacraments, the Communion of Saints, One Holy and Apostolic Church… It is truly a great sorrowful loss.

Relevant to this discussion, what is also lost is your individual claim to decide what the Church believed and believes.

mm, Christ's own words tell us that His flesh (σάρξ, sarx, a great word. There is a variation of it in the Creed, σαρκωθέντα, sarxothenta, enfleshed) is truly food and His Blood truly drink. The Greek, at John 6:55 is crystal clear:

ἡ γὰρ σάρξ μου ἀληθής ἐστιν βρῶσις, καὶ τὸ αἷμά μου ἀληθής ἐστιν πόσις.

In fact, the whole passage, John 6:47-59, especially in the Greek, makes it clear that Christ was being quite literal about us eating His flesh and drinking His blood.

So, the choice is the Catholics.

Exactly! Like those who left Jesus who understood Jesus's Words as cannibalism - literally eating His flesh and blood.

This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your forefathers ate manna and died, but he who feeds on this bread will live forever." Jesus is The Word, The Bread of Life.

On hearing it, many of his disciples said, "This is a hard teaching. Who can accept it?"

Aware that his disciples were grumbling about this, Jesus said to them, "Does this offend you?

"The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The Words I have spoken to you are Spirit and they are LIFE". I am The Way, The Truth, The LIFE.

"Yet there are some of you who do not believe." For Jesus had known from the beginning which of them did not believe and who would betray HIM". For they knew Him NOT.

"From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him". Couldn't accept Him because of their worldly thinking. The natural man cannot accept....

"Then Jesus turned to the Twelve and asked, "Are you also going to leave?"

Simon Peter answered him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of ETERNAL life".

Amen! Jesus is The Way, The Truth and The LIFE!. Jesus is The Word - the Spiritual - His Word is Holy Spirit inspired and spiritually discerned.

Worldly kingdom/man's thinking vs. HIS KINGDOM/Spiritual.