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To: annalex
“By his own blood, entered once into the holies, having obtained eternal redemption.” Indeed. Ther Eucharist is not a separate sacrifice but that very sacrifice described in Hebrews 9, applied to us personally.”

You seem to have overlooked or misunderstand what “once” means.
Unlike the Jewish high priest, Christ heavenly offering obtained “eternal redemption” and did not need to be repeated or performed on earth.
It was offered and accepted “once”.

6,001 posted on 12/28/2010 1:05:34 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

In this case doesn’t “Christ commanded his disciples to “keep doing this..” contradict your “once” point?


6,002 posted on 12/28/2010 1:13:49 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: count-your-change

I think that Proddys are supposed to remember that

in the Vatican Daffynitionary

“once”

means billions of times.


6,012 posted on 12/28/2010 4:56:04 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: count-your-change
You seem to have overlooked or misunderstand what “once” means.

Unlike the Jewish high priest, Christ heavenly offering obtained “eternal redemption” and did not need to be repeated or performed on earth. It was offered and accepted “once”.

Not understanding Scripture seems to be a common malady amongst Catholics.

The sacrifice was over and done here on earth. His body died, His blood was shed. The curtain in the Temple was torn in two.

Jesus role in heaven now is that of a priest, not a sacrifice.

If Jesus is alive in heaven, as Catholics continually claim that all the saints are to hear and answer our prayers, then what is going on in heaven is relevant to what is going on on earth. If Christ were still dying here on earth, then He'd still be dying in heaven.

Since He is a priest in heaven, the ultimate reality, then He is a priest there, no longer a sacrifice.

I guess there is something about *Tetelestai*- *It is finished* that Catholics fail to comprehend. If they're claiming that the sacrifice is ongoing, then someone is lying. Either the Catholic church. Or Jesus.

6,017 posted on 12/28/2010 6:33:14 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: count-your-change; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; Diamond; ...
You seem to have overlooked or misunderstand what “once” means.

Unlike the Jewish high priest, Christ heavenly offering obtained “eternal redemption” and did not need to be repeated or performed on earth. It was offered and accepted “once”.

You know, I don't recall any Scripture where we are called to participate in His sacrifice.

The only participation we would have would be helping to kill Him, driving the nails in as it were. That's the only role we play in His death.

This nonsense about the priest sacrificing Jesus is ridiculous. Nobody sacrificed Him. He laid His life down voluntarily. Nobody took it from Him.

I wouldn't brag about participating in the sacrifice of Jesus and call participating in continually killing Him as *worship*.

6,018 posted on 12/28/2010 6:37:02 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: count-your-change

I guess they miss the past tense of the passages.


6,019 posted on 12/28/2010 6:40:04 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: count-your-change
Christ heavenly offering obtained “eternal redemption” and did not need to be repeated or performed on earth

The Holy Eucharist is not a repetition or performance of anything.

It is usually a good idea to know a thing or two about the subject upon which you wish to opine.

6,600 posted on 01/03/2011 8:47:51 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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