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To: editor-surveyor; presently no screen name; metmom; OLD REGGIE; Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7; boatbums
Luther revived a church

His first tenet is that men are saved by faith alone and that men are saved at the time they make a profession of faith onward no matter what sins they subsequently commit. That teaching is absurd and damaging to anyone's soul, and it is in plain contradiction to the scripture, which teaches the necessity of both good works and penance for salvation.

Further, had Luther simply offer us a new religion which "corrected" the scripture, sort of like Mohammed, that would have been an honest thing to do. But instead he created a system of deception that allowed men he trained in his German sophistry to rationalize and spin away a better half of the Bible to suit his theological fantasy. He then capped that off by saying that he was reforming, or even "reviving" Christianity. He is a cheap shyster, and those who believed him place their souls in great danger.

You can rebuff what I say by explaining how it is that "faith alone" is a biblical concept. Do mot forget to involve James 2:17-26 and Matthew 31-46 because these two passages most clearly contradict the basis of Protestantism.

Or you can continue posting something accusing the Church of God of all kind of evil.

Either way, you are not talking to uneducated peasants like Luther did. If you wish a serious scriptural dispute you will get it.

4,723 posted on 12/04/2010 2:47:50 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex; editor-surveyor; presently no screen name; metmom
Do mot forget to involve James 2:17-26

An entire doctrine of salvation of works built on ONE misunderstood scripture

The book of James was written to the converted Jewish church , not heathens seeking salvation It tells them how their conversion is seen by the unsaved world . It is not about becoming saved or being saved. It is about the fruit of your salvation.

Jam 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Jam 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

This is an amplification of the teaching of Jesus that we know a tree by the fruit it bears.It is how we know the saved from the unsaved. It does not declare that the man has faith ...but that he SAYS he has faith.

This addresses a hollow profession of faith , not a saving one .Can a hollow profession save him? NO, any more than works can save.This scripture says to the church that this faith is non existent , it is dead.

The bible is clear that it is God that gives the faith and it is God that ordains the works of the saved

Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Hbr 13:21 Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom [be] glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Phl 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of [his] good pleasure.

4,727 posted on 12/04/2010 3:14:27 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: annalex
Or you can continue posting something accusing the Church of God of all kind of evil.

God's Church, JESUS the Christ is The HEAD, who is THE WORD is based on HIS WORD alone.

The RCC with it's man made teaching are heresy and nullify the Word of God.

"Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13

The RCC is the counterfeit church. "Leaning unto your own understanding' of God's Word is taught from the counterfeit church - because God's Word warns of that. HEAR AND OBEY. So far, all you have done is disobey and that makes ALL your posts NULL and VOID.

The WORD made flesh and dwelt among us.


Going against HIS WORD, is going against JESUS the Christ. And that is an ANTI-CHRIST spirit. Now you see why the RCC is the counterfeit church.
4,747 posted on 12/04/2010 6:36:46 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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