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To: Natural Law; presently no screen name; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; Belteshazzar; bkaycee; ...
Luther was not infallible in that much of what he taught, the hatred of the Jews for example, was errant. If not, then is not hatred of the Jews embodied in Protestant dogma and why do you choose to some of what Luther taught such as the real presence and the perpetual virginity of Mary?

Show us where hatred of Jews is embodied in Protestant *dogma*. If you're going to throw out false accusations and lie about what Protestants believe, at least try to defend yourself by providing sources for them.

Besides, since when do Catholics think that Protestants have dogma? You guys are always accusing us of being all over the map doctrinally. You know *every man his own pope* and *30,000 denominations* and *YOPIOS*? How can we have dogma and not at the same time. Explain that as well, while you're at it.

4,676 posted on 12/04/2010 9:17:47 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
"Show us where hatred of Jews is embodied in Protestant *dogma*."

Had I accused you of lying some old anti-Catholic bag would have issued me an unofficial warning while at the same time reporting an abuse. Looks like you chose the right target for your invective to avoid any such intervention.

It didn't say antisemitism was part of Protestant dogma, I was using the inconsistent between the absence of it in contradiction to Luther's teachings as an example of Protestant duplicity. The point I was making was that believing Luther, and the other fathers of the Reformation, is a hit or miss proposition. Making it, like the Protestant proclamations on the relative importance and interpretation of Scripture a personal choice.

The bottom line is that there was nothing divine or special about Luther. He was a political pawn whose primary mission was not "reforming" the Church, but rather giving cover to those who coveted the accumulated wealth and property of the Church. In that he was successful.

"since when do Catholics think that Protestants have dogma?"

Dogma is nothing more than a doctrine or a corpus of doctrines relating to matters such as morality and faith, set forth in an authoritative manner by a church. The major branches of Protestantism do indeed have dogma. What you, on the other hand appear to have is closer to a "gestalt".

4,688 posted on 12/04/2010 10:15:35 AM PST by Natural Law
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