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To: kosta50; annalex; stfassisi; MarkBsnr; Cronos; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; Belteshazzar; ...
I can't speak for Matthew, and I will not accuse the man of anything because I don't know why wrote what he wrote.

But you are. You have passed judgment on why he wrote it back in post 4440 where you said....These are not coincidental discoveries or prophesies, boatbums. The NT was written so that it would appear the OT is a Christian prophesy, the way the Book of Mormon was written to “prove” that it is the third authentic scripture.

You've answered the question and stated that Matthew wrote the gospel to make it appear that the OT prophecy was being fulfilled.

If it was written for such a manner, then it was deliberately written as a lie and you've essentially answered the question of whether Matthew was lying when he said that verse in Isaiah was prophecy.

Matter of fact, by stating that, you've declared that the whole NT is a fraud. If the NT is a fraud and all the NT writers were lying, including Peter and Jesus. In that case, that Jesus was a fictional character who never existed.

You've then declared that the church fathers were liars and fraudulent in writing it since Catholics claim authorship of the Bible. Therefore, everything the Catholic church claims and stands for is a fraud as well. It then becomes no different than islam which is a political ideology dressed up in religion because the church then claims authority granted by God and is deceiving the masses for what could be no other than political gain.

4,479 posted on 12/03/2010 7:03:13 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; annalex; stfassisi; MarkBsnr; Cronos; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy
You've answered the question and stated that Matthew wrote the gospel to make it appear that the OT prophecy was being fulfilled.

But I didn't suggest what compelled the author to do that. 

If it was written for such a manner, then it was deliberately written as a lie

Someone who wrote 40 years after the crucifixion was probably not even born when Christ died and was writing what he was taught, just as the rest of you, believing  it was a prophesyErroneous belief is not a deliberate lie 

Matter of fact, by stating that, you've declared that the whole NT is a fraud.

Either your apparent lack of comprehension is appalling, or you deliberately enjoy twisting things into false conclusions. Only you can answer that. 

4,500 posted on 12/03/2010 11:00:06 AM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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The external evidence is that Matthew's account was written about 41 A.D.

The naysayers about the gospels always try to place their writing after 70 A.D. since to do otherwise would be to acknowledge the accuracy of Jesus’ prophecy about the destruction of Jerusalem,.
But those who had heard Jesus’ prophecy and acted on it were spared the horrors of Jerusalem's destruction that Josephus wrote about afterward.

Thus by the accuracy of its prophecies the Bible is proved truly God's Word.

4,505 posted on 12/03/2010 11:33:38 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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