[annalex]

what was the proof that Mary was the real mother of Jesus?

The witness of the Church, -- St. Joseph and the apostles in particular, and Mary herself, on that score. Like the entire Christianity it is a matter of belief. Some disbelieve. It is characteristic of the Protestants to disbelieve. But Catholic Christians believe.

[metmom]

The witness of the Church, -- St. Joseph and the apostles in particular, and Mary herself, on that score. Like the entire Christianity it is a matter of belief. Some disbelieve. It is characteristic of the Protestants to disbelieve. But Catholic Christians believe.

Believe and disbelieve what? Scripture vs Tradition? Since you claim the witness of the *Church* is must be tradition.

We believe Scripture and keep referring back to it. Catholics keep telling us it's wrong and appealing to Tradition, and the *church fathers* and any other extra-Biblical evidence they can find to support their unbiblical teachings.

Who's doing the disbelieving here? We believe God in His word. Catholics believe everyone else BUT God.