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To: blue-duncan
So much for no detail. Read commentaries of serous authors who disagree with you on this. Perhaps start a new thread. Then a more in-depth discussion could take place.

In the previous as well as the following chapters of Ezekiel the final judgment of Jehovah is pronounced upon the enemies of His chosen people. Satan is numbered among these enemies in 1 Chronicles 21:1; hence he naturally appears in this list.

The OT angel kn own as ha-satan is a loyal servant of God. 1 Chronicles 21:1 simply states that the satan (which is really a title and not a name Christians invented), the accuser, the divine prosecutor general if you will, stood up against Israel because God did (2 Sam 24:1).

The idea of a divine Messiah never existed in Judaism, and even the very idea of a messiah does not come until after the post-exilic period, not during the major prophets.

4,148 posted on 12/01/2010 10:06:39 PM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: kosta50; blue-duncan
The idea of a divine Messiah never existed in Judaism, and even the very idea of a messiah does not come until after the post-exilic period, not during the major prophets.

It wasn't because God never told them. Pretty early on, as a matter of fact.

Genesis 3:15 - And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”

4,170 posted on 12/01/2010 11:10:45 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: kosta50
loyal servant of God

Who is this 'God' you speak of?
4,179 posted on 12/01/2010 11:39:01 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: kosta50
The idea of a divine Messiah never existed in Judaism, and even the very idea of a messiah does not come until after the post-exilic period, not during the major prophets.

It did exist in Scripture. They just missed it because they didn't interpret Scripture right.

Isaiah 7:14Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.

4,241 posted on 12/02/2010 7:07:52 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: kosta50

“Read commentaries of serous authors who disagree with you on this”

Kosta, you sell yourself short if you think that I don’t respect you enough to have researched all sides of an issue when we correspond. I apologize if I have given you that impression. If you notice in the discussion I have referred to different views and have addressed some of them in my argument.

Here is a portion of one of the articles I found in my research,

“Eastern Orthodoxy teaches that nothing is greater than God, including evil.Evil results from the free will of God’s creation, and the evil one, Satan, was once good.His name was Lucifer, or light-bearer, and the Orthodox tradition likens him to the morning star.But he also opposed his own will to God’s will, and found himself in darkness.Orthodoxy teaches that Satan is not as powerful as God.But Satan’s particular talent is falsehood, so he is able to convince people that he is as powerful as God.Eastern Orthodoxy is very optimistic in its outlook, teaching that the triumph of good over evil on the Last Day is a certainty.”


4,263 posted on 12/02/2010 8:27:00 AM PST by blue-duncan
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