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To: annalex; metmom; RnMomof7; presently no screen name; OLD REGGIE; Quix; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; ...
He who do the works is saved

Read the Bible, annalex. Learn the truth. Christ is very clear that faith is the marker for salvation. And from that faith good works spring forth.

"Be not afraid; only believe." -- Mark 5:36


"Sirs, what must I do to be saved?

And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." -- Acts 6:30-3

Was Luke lying? Was he unclear? These words are some of the easiest to understand in the entire Bible, and yet Roman Catholics stumble all over them and somehow end up preening about their own good works as meriting salvation.

Good works are the fruit of the indwelling Holy Spirit. They are the result of God's grace; not the cause of it. If a man does not live a Godly life with love and charity, he obviously has not been graced with faith. That's what James was speaking to - true faith is alive by the Spirit which animates it.

"By grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Not of works, lest any man should boast." -- Ephesians 2:8-9

No wonder Rome tries to diminish Paul. Its theology denies what the apostle taught.

Repent.

"Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith." -- Galatians 5:4-5


4,143 posted on 12/01/2010 9:58:23 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Your right but you also know it’s falling on deaf ears...eyes that won’t see....blinded by other than light.


4,144 posted on 12/01/2010 10:00:41 PM PST by caww
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
If there's anything in the NT that speaks against what the RCC teaches, it's this passage....

Galatians 3:1-14 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? Did you suffer so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain? Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith—just as Abraham "believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness"?

Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham. And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, "In you shall all the nations be blessed." So then, those who are of faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, "Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them." Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for "The righteous shall live by faith." But the law is not of faith, rather "The one who does them shall live by them." Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree"— so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.

No wonder they rail against Paul so much. His teachings nullify their church doctrine.

4,152 posted on 12/01/2010 10:17:51 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; metmom; RnMomof7; presently no screen name; OLD REGGIE; Quix; Alex Murphy; ...
Good works are the fruit of the indwelling Holy Spirit. They are the result of God's grace; not the cause of it.

Anyone argued otherwise? The foundational passage for the Catholic soteriology is Eph 2:4-10 and it makes very clear that grace is not a result of our works.

The Protestant error is that faith produces good works somehow, perhaps, through a chemical reaction. Not so. We should have enough faith to "walk in them". We are not saved by faith alone. Consider James 2:17-26, Matthew 25:31-46.

4,966 posted on 12/07/2010 5:42:41 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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