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To: Natural Law; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; Belteshazzar; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...

“Your mind has obviously been poisoned with Protestant threats of damnation. The souls cast into hell simply no longer exist, no fire, no brimstone, no nothing. The greatest punishment is an eternity without Christ.”

That’s not what the Catholic church teaches in its Catechism.

It does not teach soul annihilation.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p123a12.htm#IV

1022 Each man receives his eternal retribution in his immortal soul at the very moment of his death, in a particular judgment that refers his life to Christ: either entrance into the blessedness of heaven-through a purification594 or immediately,595 — or immediate and everlasting damnation.596

1035 The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, “eternal fire.”617 The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God, in whom alone man can possess the life and happiness for which he was created and for which he longs.

1038 The resurrection of all the dead, “of both the just and the unjust,”621 will precede the Last Judgment. This will be “the hour when all who are in the tombs will hear [the Son of man’s] voice and come forth, those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of judgment.”622 Then Christ will come “in his glory, and all the angels with him .... Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, and he will place the sheep at his right hand, but the goats at the left.... And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”623

1051 Every man receives his eternal recompense in his immortal soul from the moment of his death in a particular judgment by Christ, the judge of the living and the dead.

Every man his own pope, choosing what of the Catechism of the Catholic church to believe or ignore.

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4,005 posted on 12/01/2010 11:10:26 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
"That’s not what the Catholic church teaches in its Catechism."

None of that is incompatible whith what I posted. I just don't believe that "fire and brimstone" nonsense and do not believe that tere is any greater punishment than being deprived of an eternity in the presence of God.

4,007 posted on 12/01/2010 11:14:13 AM PST by Natural Law (lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi)
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To: metmom
Why did you omit CCC 1037 - “God predestines no one to go to hell”?
4,010 posted on 12/01/2010 11:25:22 AM PST by Natural Law (lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi)
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To: metmom; Natural Law
NL- “Your mind has obviously been poisoned with Protestant threats of damnation. The souls cast into hell simply no longer exist, no fire, no brimstone, no nothing. The greatest punishment is an eternity without Christ.”

MM- That’s not what the Catholic church teaches in its Catechism.
It does not teach soul annihilation.

I agree, in fact, what our FRiend NL is espousing is what the Jehovah Witnesses believe. That souls do not face eternity suffering in hell, but are annihilated. It is also very curiously close to the concept of becoming one with the universe and losing all sense or knowledge of self - ceasing to really exist - that is held by Buddhism and Hinduism.

4,092 posted on 12/01/2010 7:40:54 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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