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To: getoffmylawn; stfassisi; MarkBsnr; annalex; kosta50
"Once they abandoned the Church, all the could really take with them is that collection of writings the Church regards as scripture. They left the teachings of the Fathers, Holy Tradition, and the authority passed along through Apostolic Succession and were left with - a book.

Well, yes and no. The first generation of Reformers still held to many of the tenets of Holy Tradition; the Perpetual Virginity of the Theotokos for example. In fact, the next generation after Luther attempted to connect with the Pat. of Constantinople and come under his omophorion, on their own terms of course and so it never happened but they did make the approach. By a generation or two later, that was all gone. It often takes awhile, but inevitably, to paraphrase The Shadow, the weed of heresy bears bitter fruit!

In any event, where do you and I learn our Faith? From the what we say when we pray, my brother, from the what we say when we pray. And the ultimate prayer of the People of God is the Divine Liturgy.

http://www.goarch.org/multimedia/audio/audiofiles/liturgy/liturgy-g

"Εἴδομεν τὸ φῶς τὸ ἀληθινόν, ἐλάβομεν Πνεῦμα ἐπουράνιον, εὕρομεν πίστιν ἀληθῆ, ἀδιαίρετον Τριάδα προσκυνοῦντες, αὕτη γὰρ ἡμᾶς ἔσωσεν.

3,283 posted on 11/26/2010 3:23:42 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Kolokotronis

My 13 week old kitten, “Sava”, is really enjoying listening to the Divine Liturgy with me. I think I named him well :)


3,295 posted on 11/26/2010 4:42:22 PM PST by getoffmylawn (aka R.P. McMurphy)
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