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To: annalex; HarleyD; boatbums; metmom; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; blue-duncan; caww; ...
You have done enough when you die and go to heaven. There is no quota to fill. One must examine his conscience for the motive, and at times indeed there is room for doubt; Christ, however, knows your soul and knows your motivation. It is important to go about your day prayerfully, and then whatever it is you do becomes sanctifying work. It is not complicated, if you have the simple faith of a child (Mt 18:4). Also, study the lives of the saints. They, somehow managed to get "done enough". So study what they did and imitate them.

So the "good news" according to Rome is,

Not only are we bound to the law (Acts 15:10 which neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear?),

but we must also add good works to sanctify our own souls, to achieve(with "grace") our own justification in which the soul merits (is pleasing) entrance to heaven

AND confess to a priest for forgiveness of sin, recieve the Eucharist for a grace booster to maintain a "state of grace",

AND pray to Mary and the saints to beg Jesus for mercy(cause Lord knows He is such a stickler) to push us over the edge AND/OR push others out of fire of purgatory.

AND assent to ALL dogma including recent Ex Cathedra statements AND (more importantely) submit to any and all future dictates from the Pope(hopefully, there is just one).

I am not sure I see the "good" in this news.

2,871 posted on 11/22/2010 7:58:23 AM PST by bkaycee
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To: bkaycee; annalex

“So study what they did and imitate them.”

Actually according to Hebrews 13:7 it is their FAITH that we are imitate as we observe how their conduct turns out.

And studying the live of faithful Christians, “saints”, in one thing, worshiping them and purported relics is quite another.


2,874 posted on 11/22/2010 8:20:44 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: bkaycee
Lol. That is a great rendition of Rome's salvation by law-keeping which demotes God's grace and Christ's sacrifice to simple motivation and not the life-altering regeneration by the Holy Spirit that it rightly is.

They make the grace of God of no effect.

"Be not afraid; only believe." -- Mark 5:36

They don't get it.

2,886 posted on 11/22/2010 11:39:21 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: bkaycee; HarleyD; boatbums; metmom; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; blue-duncan; caww
So the "good news" according to Rome is,

Not only are we bound to the law

We are not bound to the Old Testament Law (Romans, Galatians) even though we are to obey laws that are just (Titus 3:1, Romans 13:1ff).

but we must also add good works

Yes, see Romans 2:6-10, Matthew 5-7, 25:31-46, Eph 2:5-10)

AND confess to a priest for forgiveness of sin

2 Corinthians 5:18, John 20:23, 1 John 1:9, Matthew 11:20, Luke 13:3, Acts 2:38.

recieve the Eucharist for a grace booster to maintain a "state of grace"

Luke 22:19, John 6:53(54). However, to maintain a state of grace you simply choose not to sin; it is when you lack strength to stay holy that you need the supernatural strength of the Holy Eucharist. Let me break for illustration:



St. Zosima brings the Eucharist to St. Mary of Egypt

In her youth St. Mary was "driven "by an insatiable and an irrepressible [sexual] passion". She went to see the Holy Land hoping to seduce the pilgrims along the way. She was, however, converted by the holy relics and the icon of Mary, repented and went to live as an ascetic in the desert. The icon shows St. Mary after years of penance "almost unrecognizable as human", encountering St. Zosima who, on her request, had brought her the Holy Communion. Following year she died. Mary of Egypt

AND pray to Mary and the saints to beg Jesus for mercy

It is a good idea but it does you no good if it is not spontaneous heartfelt prayer. It is not a requirement. Rather, prayer is a fruit of faith; as you leave the prison of Protestantism, your sanctification will commence and over time you will feel the need of prayer, and you will benefit from it.

AND assent to ALL dogma including recent Ex Cathedra statements AND (more importantely) submit to any and all future dictates from the Pope

See Acts 20:28. A Catholic is asked, to the measure of his ability, to learn the teaching from his bishop and the popes past and present, and if he is not able to give it assent, work on understanding the reasons for it and not teach against it. Blind obedience to the Magisterium is not required, but reasoned faith in its divine guidance is indeed a mark of a true Catholic.

I am not sure I see the "good" in this news.

The good is eternal life with Christ. Let him who has ears hear.

3,951 posted on 12/01/2010 5:59:09 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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