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To: The Theophilus; metmom; presently no screen name
Mary listed in Mark 15:40 is the mother of more sons than just Jesus. Because the next argument is that Mary had a blood sister named Mary

Mary in 15:40 is the mother of the sons James, and Joseph. She is not Mary the Mother of God -- obviously since the Evangelist descrbing the crucifixion of Jesus would not omit the only relevant relation of that Mary, to Jesus, were that true. Neither is she necessarily a sister of Mary. She is some kid on relative also named Mary.

thus you need to accept the idea that Joseph and Mary had other sons after her first[because of the phrasing of Mt 1:24-25]

Firstborn applies to any first child regardless of whether any other follow. "έως" does not necessarily mean "up till that time but not subsequently". It can simply mean "surely up to this day, and what happens after I have no comment". For example, in the text by the same Evangelist, we read "the field was called Haceldama, that is, The field of blood, even to [eos] this day" (Mt 27:8). Surely St. Matthew did not mean to imply that as soon as the ink is dry the field will be renamed.

The focus in all Nativity narratives is the miraculous birth of Christ. The focus is therefore on the absence of intercourse prior to His birth. The narrator has no comment and does not wish to distract us with what went on later between them.

2,864 posted on 11/22/2010 5:43:17 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex; The Theophilus; metmom; presently no screen name
Mary listed in Mark 15:40 is the mother of more sons than just Jesus. Because the next argument is that Mary had a blood sister named Mary

Mary in 15:40 is the mother of the sons James, and Joseph. She is not Mary the Mother of God -- obviously since the Evangelist descrbing the crucifixion of Jesus would not omit the only relevant relation of that Mary, to Jesus, were that true. Neither is she necessarily a sister of Mary. She is some kid on relative also named Mary.

Several times you have claimed the Mary, mother of James and Joses, is not Mary, the mother of Jesus and several times I have asked if you are suggesting Mary, mother of Jesus, was not there.

See for one example. #2561

I ask one more time - are you saying that the Mary, mother of James and Joses in Mark 15:40 is not the mother of Jesus and was not present at the time?

2,892 posted on 11/22/2010 12:18:41 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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