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To: mas cerveza por favor; HarleyD
You realize there is a schism between much of the East and Rome. Before the split, the majority Eastern view was correct. After the split, they wrongly rejected the primacy of Peter for political reasons. Many Eastern Orthodox wish to see and end to the schism. However, partisans of the schism falsely pretend to have maintained continuity with the beliefs before the split. These Eastern Orthodox say the Pope is "first among equals," whatever that means.

The majority Eastern view was correct before, and after, the split.

First Ecumenical Council - 325

Canonon VI
Let the ancient customs in Egypt, Libya and Pentapolis prevail, that the Bishop of Alexandria have jurisdiction in all these, since the like is customary for the Bishop of Rome also. Likewise in Antioch and the other provinces, let the Churches retain their privileges. And this is to be universally understood, that if any one be made bishop without the consent of the Metropolitan, the great Synod has declared that such a man ought not to be a bishop. If, however, two or three bishops shall from natural love of contradiction, oppose the common suffrage of the rest, it being reasonable and in accordance with the ecclesiastical law, then let the choice of the majority prevail.

The Bishop Of Rome (the Papacy had not yet been invented) did not have Primacy over the entire Church!

2,417 posted on 11/17/2010 2:17:40 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: OLD REGGIE
The Bishop Of Rome (the Papacy had not yet been invented) did not have Primacy over the entire Church!

It is just breathtaking the lack of historical knowledge of Roman Catholics as they try to read back into history and scripture a modern understanding of the papacy.

2,421 posted on 11/17/2010 2:28:20 PM PST by bkaycee
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To: OLD REGGIE

Your quote confirms that the Pope is Patriarch of the West. Most Greeks, Egyptians, and Ethiopians split from Rome. Armenians and Lebanese remained never separated. All these various Eastern Churches retain responsibilities for naming their own bishops. The primacy of the pope is in doctrine, not in appointing bishops to each far-flung Eastern Patriarchy.


2,423 posted on 11/17/2010 2:46:53 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: OLD REGGIE
The Bishop Of Rome (the Papacy had not yet been invented) did not have Primacy over the entire Church!

It is like talking to a wall ...The pope says there was always a papacy and he is infallible (because he says so) therefore if he says it , it must be true..even though history says something else all together .

When the blind lead the blind they all Literally all fall into the pit

2,444 posted on 11/17/2010 4:02:37 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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