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To: wagglebee

“”The “other” children of the Blessed Mother is THE CHURCH. Our Lord made His mother OUR mother on the Cross (see John 19:26-27). Christians know this, members of gnostic sects do not.””

Exactly! This is what historical Christianity always knew.

From THE PATRISTIC PRAISE OF MARY
http://www.ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/fr90203.htm

Mary as Mother of the Church

Since Christ is Head of his Mystical Body, the Church, it follows that Mary, mother of Christ, is also mother of that body. As we have seen, the early Church Fathers called Mary the new Eve, in that as Eve was our mother by physical generation, so Mary is our mother by spiritual regeneration, in virtue of her Divine Son’s redemption of humanity. In the second century, St. Irenaeus commented that “the Word will become flesh, and the Son of God the son of man—the Pure One opening purely that pure womb, which generates men unto God.” St. Epiphanius remarked, “True it is . . . the whole race of man upon earth was born of Eve; but in reality it is from Mary that Life was truly born to the world, so that by giving birth to the Living One, Mary might also become the Mother of all the living.” St. Augustine summarized, “The Mother of the Head, in bearing Him corporally became spiritually the Mother of all members of this Divine Head.”

With regard to Mary’s intercessory role on behalf of the members of the Body of Christ, St. Irenaeus remarked, “He who is devout to the Virgin Mother will certainly never be lost.” St. Augustine addresses Mary, “Through you do the miserable obtain mercy, the ungracious grace, and the weak strength.” St. Jerome wrote, “Mary not only comes to us when called, but even spontaneously advances to meet us.” St. Basil the Great (379 A.D.), bishop of Caesarea, declared, “God has ordained that she should assist us in everything!” St. John Damascene prayed, “O Mother of God, if I place my confidence in you, I shall be saved. If I am under your protection, I have nothing to fear, for the fact of being your client is the possession of a certainty of salvation, which God grants only to those whom He intends to save.” St. Ephraem beseeches Mary, “O Lady, cease not to watch over us; preserve and guard us under the wings of your compassion and mercy, for, after God, we have no hope but in you!” St. Fulgentius (533 A.D.), bishop of Ruspe, stated, “Mary is the ladder of heaven; for by Mary God descended from Heaven into the world, that by her men might ascend from earth to Heaven.” Pope St. Leo the Great (461 A.D.) observed, “Mary is so endued with feelings of compassion, that she not only deserves to be called merciful, but even mercy itself.”


2,051 posted on 11/15/2010 12:26:14 PM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi; Quix

On the other hand, Quix, here is a ready example of the other and opposite extreme, that is, of attributing to Mary far more than the Holy Scriptures teach. As provided by stfassisi:
“Since Christ is Head of his Mystical Body, the Church, it follows that Mary, mother of Christ, is also mother of that body.”

“It follows ...” What follows is wholly extra-scriptural, and in large measure anti-scriptural. Ahhh, Dame Reason (and, no, stfassisi, I am not by this referring to Mary), she is so clever, and she has such a hold on the children of men.

Go ahead, bind men’s consciences to man’s musings. See where it will lead.


2,054 posted on 11/15/2010 12:35:10 PM PST by Belteshazzar
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