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To: annalex; Belteshazzar
I clarified in my previous piosts the exact sense in which it is so. The Church wrote the New Testament and clarified adn canonized the Old. Further, if it were not for the Chruch, the Old Testament would have been sacred books of the Jewish nation of no interest to Gentiles. Non of that is to deny the divine inspiration of the entire Old Testament canon (which you guys truncated) and the NEw Testament. Deal with it. The Scripture is a Catholic book.

The scriptures were written by the Holy Spirit, through the men selected by God for the honor. The NT scriptures existed before the Roman church. Rome wants to say that the church preceded the bible, that the authority of the scriptures come from the infallible church, therefore the church is equal to the scriptures..

Sorry that does not wash

The problem is the ASSUMPTION that the "church" of the NT is today the Roman Catholic church.. it was a catholic church small c.. but not the Roman church

1,823 posted on 11/14/2010 1:45:22 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: RnMomof7; Belteshazzar
The scriptures were written by the Holy Spirit, through the men selected by God for the honor

Yes, and these men all were Catholic Christians.

The NT scriptures existed before the Roman church

Before the Catholic Church founded its Roman local Church? Possibly, but that is not the point. The Catohlic Church was established by Christ in the Upper Room with the descent of the Holy Spirit on the Apostles. "Rome" has little to do with it.

the ASSUMPTION that the "church" of the NT is today the Roman Catholic church

It is an assumption that can be proven and in fact has been proven. Whatever changes that happened between the time the New Testament was written and the Church today are perhaps refinement and firther explanation of the Faith, but the Catohlic Church today professes the faith of the Apostles, as we can see from the Hoyl Scripture. This is in contrast to the inventions done by Luther in direct contradiction of the Scripture. Every time I ask where does the Catholic Church today contradict the scripture I get fluffy nonsense like "meat on Friday" -- something that does not pertain to the dogmas of the faith itself. That is because while there is much the Church taught the world that is not in the scripture, there is nothing that is in the scripture that the Church disagrees with. The Church is the inspired human author of the New Testament and the inspired final editor and exegete of the Old Testament.

2,821 posted on 11/21/2010 3:06:16 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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