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To: RnMomof7; smvoice; metmom
Are we trying to change the subject? If we are correct and there is no apostolic succession, no infallibile pope

We were also talking about the proper historical context to interpret scripture. Anyway, I totally demolished your challenges to demonstrate apostolic succession and Church infallibility using Scripture. You talk a good game about obeying God's word, but when I provide biblical precedents for replacing a deceased apostle and an infallible Church council, you scoff.

The only rebuttals you guys could make was to quibble about side issues like the use of lots, Matthias' notoriety, and subjective opinions about which male was the most alpha at the council. Is the mechanics of Judas' replacement more important than the fact that it took place? Do you deny that Jerusalem council was inspired by the Holy Spirit? You purport to be a bible believer but now I call your bluff.

1,725 posted on 11/13/2010 8:09:56 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor
Anyway, I totally demolished your challenges to demonstrate apostolic succession and Church infallibility using Scripture.

Where?

1,727 posted on 11/13/2010 8:14:45 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: mas cerveza por favor
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UNMITIGATED BALDERDASH!
What an unsurprise!


1,728 posted on 11/13/2010 8:24:00 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: mas cerveza por favor
Is the mechanics of Judas' replacement more important than the fact that it took place?

They were not instructed by God to replace Judas. Peter took that on himself to make that decision.

It was not a church council of any kind because the church had not received power from on high as of yet.

It was done in the flesh, without the leading of the Holy Spirit, who had not been given yet.

If the Catholic church wishes to base their whole doctrine of the papacy and apostolic succession based on the carnal, misguided actions of a group which was not even the church yet and had no capability to use spiritual discernment, that's their prerogative, but it's still foolhardy. They weren't right the first time they did it (in Acts 1) and the Catholic church is not going to be right every time after it that it does it.

1,730 posted on 11/13/2010 8:27:40 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: mas cerveza por favor; RnMomof7; smvoice; metmom
"...when I provide biblical precedents for replacing a deceased apostle and an infallible Church council, you scoff."

How soon after the death of Judas did this take place?

1,785 posted on 11/14/2010 10:19:24 AM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: mas cerveza por favor; smvoice; metmom
We were also talking about the proper historical context to interpret scripture. Anyway, I totally demolished your challenges to demonstrate apostolic succession and Church infallibility using Scripture.

LOL LOL LOL you have proved NOTHING using scripture

Would you link me to that again I must have missed it.

There is NO SCRIPTURE of Christ giving permission for the apostles to replace their number, THERE IS NO SCRIPTURE of Jesus giving the apostles PERMISSION to pass on the special gifts given to them for the foundation of the church

There is NO SCRIPTURE that there is a priesthood in the NT Church, there is NO SCRIPTURE for an infallible Peter or papacy

So please if you have these scriptures PLEASE point me to them ...

1,796 posted on 11/14/2010 12:21:08 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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