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To: metmom; bkaycee

Sex in the context of a valid marriage is not at all dirty, it glorified God.

Mary remained a virgin in order to provide an incontrovertible evidence of the miraculous nature of the birth of Christ, and, quite simply, because her intimacy with God made sex superfluous. She did not abstain from sex on the false notion that it would have been a sin for her.


1,483 posted on 11/11/2010 5:51:38 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
UNBIBLICAL
absurdities gone to seed
yet again!
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1,484 posted on 11/11/2010 5:54:14 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: annalex
Mary remained a virgin in order to provide an incontrovertible evidence of the miraculous nature of the birth of Christ, and, quite simply, because her intimacy with God made sex superfluous. She did not abstain from sex on the false notion that it would have been a sin for her.

Book, chapter, and verse please.

Even if the scenario you posit was true and it may have been superfluous for her, what about Joseph? Her having sex wasn't all about her and her needs.

She would also be disobeying God's command to be fruitful and multiply.

1,485 posted on 11/11/2010 5:58:08 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: annalex
Mary remained a virgin in order to provide an incontrovertible evidence of the miraculous nature of the birth of Christ, and, quite simply, because her intimacy with God made sex superfluous. She did not abstain from sex on the false notion that it would have been a sin for her.

What's Joseph in all this? Chopped liver?

1,487 posted on 11/11/2010 5:59:03 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: annalex
She did not abstain from sex on the false notion that it would have been a sin for her.

I never thought that. You need to tell your Catholic compatriots that. That's THEIR reasoning.

Whenever her the reason for claiming her to be perpetually virgin comes up, the knee jerk response has to do with her (alleged) immaculate conception and being sinless her entire life.

THEY'RE the ones equating her virginity with sinlessness.

1,489 posted on 11/11/2010 6:01:47 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: annalex; metmom; bkaycee
Mary remained a virgin in order to provide an incontrovertible evidence of the miraculous nature of the birth of Christ, and, quite simply, because her intimacy with God made sex superfluous.

I don't see how not having sexual relations with your husband after giving birth stands as proof that you didn't have sexual relations prior to giving birth. Was Joseph said to be "blessed above all men"? Did Joseph experience this same "making sex superfluous" intimacy with God that Mary did? The only "proof" that Mary could offer of the virgin birth, beyond her own testimony, was the testimony of her husband Joseph's non-involvement in the matter nine months prior to the birth.

What "incontrovertible evidence" could you possibly mean? How does one do that in first century Jerusalem, practically speaking? Did she parade around without pants for the next thirty-three years? Did she make regular visits to her OB-GYN, and nail the up-to-date examination results to the Temple's Western Wall so all could see? How does your "incontrovertible evidence" not have Mary willfully and repeatedly violating Leviticus 18:6-14 for any and all seekers?

1,501 posted on 11/11/2010 6:51:23 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: annalex; metmom
Mary remained a virgin in order to provide an incontrovertible evidence of the miraculous nature of the birth of Christ, and, quite simply, because her intimacy with God made sex superfluous. She did not abstain from sex on the false notion that it would have been a sin for her.

Source ????

1,528 posted on 11/12/2010 8:43:38 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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