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To: annalex; Dr. Eckleburg; OLD REGGIE; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; ...
Because, as I tried to explain, the Church teaches that she is infallible in the matters of faith and morals, and also teaches that individual Catholics can be fallible in all matters, and that, finally, cooperation with the torturers was wrong whoever was guilty of it.

If the church is infallible in the matter of faith and morals, then its not dealing with priests who molest children is what then?

How can you justify, excuse, or explain separating the "Church" as an organization or institution from the individuals who comprise it? How can the *Church* make any pronouncements without the men who make it up making those decisions and pronouncements?

1,006 posted on 11/06/2010 8:13:19 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Metmom...A bit off subject but here’s the Pope “embracing” a statue. Posting this because catholics say they don’t do such things as an act of worship...well in front of 6,ooo people he is indeed ‘embracing’ a statue. Just annoys me no end the obvious is obvious to everyone else except the catholics....Embracing shrines/statues is exactly what the pagans did and God said don’t do this.

An estimated 6,000 people attended the open-air Mass in the shadow of Santiago’s ornate cathedral, where Benedict prayed before the apostle James’ tomb, embraced his statue.........

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101107/ap_on_re_eu/eu_pope_10


1,044 posted on 11/07/2010 3:15:12 PM PST by caww
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To: metmom; Dr. Eckleburg; OLD REGGIE; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan
If the church is infallible in the matter of faith and morals, then its not dealing with priests who molest children is what then?

I am glad you now agree that the American Inquisition is necessary. As to your question, since the Church never taught that molesting children is good for the faith or moral, her infallibility is not thereby challenged.

separating the "Church" as an organization or institution from the individuals who comprise it

The teaching of the Church on faith and morals is not any mechanical agglomeration of what individual Catholic say or do, but rather a set of dogmatic teachings that is well-defined, chiefly in the Catechism, in consiliar documents and in papal encyclicals. The teaching of individual Catholics does not aytomatically receive the stamp of approval from the Church and that is how you separate the two.

1,142 posted on 11/08/2010 5:16:54 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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