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In Christ Alone (Happy reformation day)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExnTlIM5QgE ^ | Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

Posted on 10/31/2010 11:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7

In Christ Alone lyrics

Songwriters: Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

In Christ alone my hope is found He is my light, my strength, my song This Cornerstone, this solid ground Firm through the fiercest drought and storm

What heights of love, what depths of peace When fears are stilled, when strivings cease My Comforter, my All in All Here in the love of Christ I stand

In Christ alone, who took on flesh Fullness of God in helpless Babe This gift of love and righteousness Scorned by the ones He came to save

?Til on that cross as Jesus died The wrath of God was satisfied For every sin on Him was laid Here in the death of Christ I live, I live

There in the ground His body lay Light of the world by darkness slain Then bursting forth in glorious Day Up from the grave He rose again

And as He stands in victory Sin?s curse has lost its grip on me For I am His and He is mine Bought with the precious blood of Christ


TOPICS: Prayer; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: reformation; savedbygrace
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To: Natural Law

Natural Law wrote:
“It was a prayer to God, not the other Freepers, though enough do understand or recognize it and it is the language I learned the prayer in.”

Perhaps, but to pray it on the “corners of the streets” is for what purpose? This is well plowed ground, Natural Law, well and truly plowed by Him who prayed, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.”

Do you not see that? Really?


921 posted on 11/05/2010 8:40:48 PM PDT by Belteshazzar
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To: Natural Law; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; RnMomof7
Thank you for recognizing the need for a Magisterium and a Communion of the Saints in which all believers are of a like mind, as opposed to the chaos within the Protestant world.

To those in bondage freedom would look like chaos, because those in bondage wouldn't understand it.

922 posted on 11/05/2010 8:43:44 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Well, the Good News is that if we are in Christ, satan has no power over us. As for those not in Christ, he is the prince of the power of the air and has the power to deceive and devour the unsaved. As we see all the time. I was just shocked to see some kind of exorcism post. WT?? I asked myself, this CANNOT be what it clearly is..

Has it gotten so bad that mere Scripture and conversation isn't enough?

923 posted on 11/05/2010 8:48:47 PM PDT by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; smvoice; RnMomof7; metmom; Gamecock; blue-duncan; 1000 silverlings; caww; HarleyD; ..
An internet exorcism. That just about says it all, doesn't it? When confronted by the word of God, RCs cringe and seek refuge in pagan rituals and deceitful fear-mongering.

An "internet exorcism" - sent through Internet Explorer running on Windows Vista, with a faulty keyboard that can't capitalize the letter "B" properly. Who are you gonna call?


924 posted on 11/05/2010 8:56:23 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: Natural Law; Dr. Eckleburg

Eating human flesh is cannibalism. Jesus and His disciples could never have and would never have done anything so reprehensible at the Last Supper.

If Jesus had done anything to break the Law like that, He could not have fulfilled the Law and remained the sinless, spotless sacrifice for the sins of the world.

He would have been defiled and unable to die for our sins as the Lamb of God.

It also would have made Peter a liar when he said to God in Acts that he had never eaten anything which would have defiled himself.


925 posted on 11/05/2010 8:59:25 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Alex Murphy
with a faulty keyboard that can't capitalize the letter "B" properly.

snicker.....

I sure am glad you saved that one.

hmmm, I guess my keyboard has a faulty sticky shift key when it comes to capitalizing catholic....

926 posted on 11/05/2010 9:06:59 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Alex Murphy

LOL! Internet Exorcist POSTBUSTERS.


927 posted on 11/05/2010 9:36:12 PM PDT by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: Natural Law; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...
After all we are inundated with length[y] quotes of Calvin and the Westminster Catechism on these threads that are not deleted.
.
.

CRY-BABY RED SHIRT

What a crying shame!
OH NOES!
AS though
Proddys weren't inundated
with threads about
brazen
idolatrous,
blasphemous
Maryolatry!
I'm sure there's a
pile of white hankys
nearby for all those
wailing, whining & crocodile tears
the rabid cliques seem so fond of!

928 posted on 11/05/2010 9:55:48 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Belteshazzar

Well put.


929 posted on 11/05/2010 10:00:31 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg

someone’s playing on the internet one or more strokes shy of a full keyboard


930 posted on 11/06/2010 12:15:22 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg; smvoice; RnMomof7; metmom; Gamecock; blue-duncan; 1000 silverlings; ...
LOL!!


931 posted on 11/06/2010 5:33:51 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

When one does not like the message, they try to kill the messenger


932 posted on 11/06/2010 6:41:20 AM PDT by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: Religion Moderator; Natural Law; metmom; Dr. Eckleburg
(Natural Law)"If I told you how I know the abuse statistics it would only result in more abuse abuse and probably elicit a warning."

Abuse Statistics
***********************************************************

Are "abuse statistics" publically available information? If not, how is it possible for a poster know about them?

I ask this question for two reasons:

1. Some time ago I believed the "abuse button" was being abused and I asked the RM if an "abuser" could be locked from the thread. IIRC the RM told me they would keep track of it and take action if they thought it necessary.

2. I feel strongly there is information that should be "private" to those on the inside, ie. the management, and would feel very uncomfortable if any poster(s) had an "inside" connection or had hacked their way in.

933 posted on 11/06/2010 11:11:34 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: OLD REGGIE; Natural Law

Abuse information is known only to the Moderators.


934 posted on 11/06/2010 11:21:26 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Natural Law; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg
Natural Law is an online personae that for all we know it could be a he, a she, a committee or a department in the Peoples Army of China.

All the advanced degrees, world travels, meeting(s) with high Church officials, personal acquaintance with "eyewintesses", inside information of FR statistics, etc. could be nothing but delusional flights of fancy.

We keep this in mind.

935 posted on 11/06/2010 11:22:01 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: HarleyD

LOL


936 posted on 11/06/2010 11:29:32 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Religion Moderator; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

There are occasional recurring puzzle pieces which convincingly indicate that one or more ?RC? Mods [or serious sympathizer(s)] is sharing inside info with other RC’s.

Some of the more rabic clique sorts of RC’s will then even publically—USUALLY—occasionally in FREEPMAIL,

beat Proddys in general or in specific about the head and shoulders with said insider info.

It happened within the last couple of weeks to a degree even I was shocked by.

It virtually always happens when our regular RM SEEMS to be occupied elsewhere.

I don’t have the link for those posts handy and no time to track them down.

IIRC, the most offensive post could probably be tracked down from MarkB’s INFORUM listings within the last 2 weeks.

Perhaps someone on my consultants’ list will have the link.

I’m personally a bit of two perspectives about it all.

1. Life and FR are complex.Such is to be expected. Even if mods were paid $4,000/month, it would still happen. Given their tireless volunteer status, they do way above and beyond the call of duty. And, most are quite honorable, if my distant perspective is any clue. Proddys obviously have thicker skins week in and week out and we can handle it.

On the other hand with different fingers,

2. SOME occasional examples of the above really are outrageous. Proddys realize that life is not fair and we are to count it all joy. However, some of the outrageousness really is unmitigatedly awful in such a public forum where at least tacit surface civility is called for.

3. It SOMETIMES FEELS LIKE, APPEARS LIKE the RC’s and/or sympathesizers involved have GAMING THE SYSTEM to their advantage down to a very clique-ish art form gleefully, sadistically and harshly engaged in. Sometimes that gets to be more than a bit much—unless I’m alone in that perspective—the consultants’ group can let us know on that score.

4. I guess the bottom line, for me is . . . I don’t think there’s much you or the FR officialdom can realistically do about such. I doubt mods are that easy to come by. Punishing a volunteer mod for outrageous favoritism and gaming the system in harsh ways toward that mod’s out-group(s) would not likely do much for mod morale.

5. I think when the regular RM is obviously on-duty—as evidenced by his characteristic wordings and posting style, he keeps a reasonable reign on such things. And, I’m glad that he doesn’t typically reach into the past to try and fix what’s quickly ancient history.

6. Nevertheless, sometimes, the outrageousness is so outrageous as to really annoy some of us Proddys. It would FEEL better if such doings at least got a stern set of rapped knuckles or a week or so’s time out for the clear offenders.

imho.


937 posted on 11/06/2010 11:47:45 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Religion Moderator; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

OF COURSE, one of the problems with such a thrashing of Proddys by a rabid clique RC with purported insider info—actually—has to be insider as there’d be no other way some such could be known—is that it’s very hard to tell how accurately related said insider info is.

That is, Maybe there’s insider info that XYZ Proddy posters posted on such and such a date about such and such a topic. Yet, what’s alledged about said posting as well as motives and a list of hogwash may be total fabrication piggy backed onto what may be more or less neutral insider information which has then been made to sound totally incrimminating to Proddys.

IIRC, the recent example alledged something about Proddy FREEPMAIL exchanges. I don’t remember the details. I remember at the time being rather insensed that anyone would brazenly assert such a thing publically in a thread. Then I was more than a bit annoyed that the allegations were so inaccurate. It’s like they were accurate in terms of Proddys exchanging FREEPMAIL discussions about a topic. They were inaccurate in how such exchanges were characterized.

Again, I don’t think there’s a solution for that, per se—unless maybe it would be giving a considerable time out for such a violation of say the sanctity of FREEPMAILS or other insider info.

It’s just seemingly too frequent and a bit galling to some Proddys when we see that sort of thing flaunted so outrageously as often as seems to be the case.

And, I’m not advocating outting insider info from the mod levels. A lot of that is wisely and fittingly suited only for those circles.

It’s just more than a little annoying to not only be accused inaccurately and outrageously—but to have absolutely no means to do anything effective about it.

Yes, our thicker Proddy skins can handle it. Maybe not always leaping and singing for joy.


938 posted on 11/06/2010 12:00:24 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: OLD REGGIE; Natural Law; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

All the advanced degrees, world travels, meeting(s) with high Church officials, personal acquaintance with “eyewintesses”, inside information of FR statistics, etc. could be nothing but delusional flights of fancy.


Excellent points.

And, given the desperate nature of some of the seemingly delusional flights of fancy coupled with the obviously poor social skills . . . perhaps we should grant them such delusional recreations graciously.


939 posted on 11/06/2010 12:03:28 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: OLD REGGIE; Natural Law

BTW, I don’t doubt Natural Law’s knowledge of insider abuse statistics in the least.

Sometimes, even rabid clique types assert true things.


940 posted on 11/06/2010 12:05:35 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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