In Christ Alone (Happy reformation day)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExnTlIM5QgE ^ | Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

[RnMomof7]

In Christ Alone lyrics

Songwriters: Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

In Christ alone my hope is found He is my light, my strength, my song This Cornerstone, this solid ground Firm through the fiercest drought and storm

What heights of love, what depths of peace When fears are stilled, when strivings cease My Comforter, my All in All Here in the love of Christ I stand

In Christ alone, who took on flesh Fullness of God in helpless Babe This gift of love and righteousness Scorned by the ones He came to save

?Til on that cross as Jesus died The wrath of God was satisfied For every sin on Him was laid Here in the death of Christ I live, I live

There in the ground His body lay Light of the world by darkness slain Then bursting forth in glorious Day Up from the grave He rose again

And as He stands in victory Sin?s curse has lost its grip on me For I am His and He is mine Bought with the precious blood of Christ

[annalex]

We are reminded, exhorted, encouraged, etc., to good works because we are still here. Simple as that! As long as we are in this human flesh, we still have the old nature within as well as the new

Yes.

It is a byproduct of the new nature and if a new convert says he has faith but his life shows no change towards a godly life or even a desire TO change, then we may conclude that their faith is not genuine

Right. He has some kind of faith, but he does not "excel in good works" (Titus 3:8). His faith is "dead" (James 2)

We "work out our salvation" not to get it but because we have it

To "work something out" means that you get it through work. For example, "I worked out a vacation" means that I put in some work and now can go on vacation. If I already had a vacation, I will say "I took a vacation". Further, if we already had a salvation, what is to fear and tremble about? So you are putting words in St. Paul's mouth.

So, yes, we are a new creation in Christ that God leads and directs and disciplines through his Word. I am a far different person spiritually now than when I first was saved

Your were not "saved". you are on your way, sounds like, to be saved. Note, however, that there is some work you are doing: at the very least, don't you try to not sin or if you sin, remedy that? You say you are a different person, -- doesn't it mean that your works are a better imitation of Christ? So it is not jsut faith. You have faith and then you do certain works that God has prepared for you.

That is what this new nature causes to happen within us

It is not some physiological result of your faith, is it? I am not trying to be sarcastic: I really don't think that your will has nothing to do with your works. Or, conversely, if your works do not reflect a proximity to Christ then your internal conviction of it is false.

no amount of works we can possibly do can bring us salvation

The salvation is already there. Look at the Crucifix. That is your salvation. My works do not bring me salvation; they make me go to where the salvation is.

[annalex]

shall I send Kosta the clip of a real Metropolitan? :)

Send it, but gently...

[Quix]

INDEED.

Last incident was 31 years ago . . . almost sawed thumb off with a hand held circular saw at end of a long day, exhausted at a new place. Etc. Same thumb. LOL.

I’m usually exceedingly careful. Was a big silly rabbit this time. And a bit tired and rushing. Must take super extra caution or stop work then.

Sigh.

THx for your exhortation.

I can’t imagine doing it frequently. It hurts far too much.

Fingers are QUITE sensitive, as you know. Even slivers in them are no fun!

Now to get a plastic glove on and take a shower. Wheee.

[annalex]

they are violating the directives given by God and reinforced by the Council of Jerusalem

Or, after Jerusalem there was another council. We had 7 of them in the Unified Church, and dozens more in the Western Church. We can govern ourselves just fine.

[annalex]

That's probably one of the few times a RC has acknowledged Protestants are united

To unite in truth is difficult. To unite in error is no big deal. Does an F grade unite the students who got it?

[annalex]

Rituals? That's Catholic lingo

Actually, it is not. While we do a lot of what appears to outsiders as rituals, they are not that, and we don't call them that.

[annalex]

What’s the difference between “conceived” and “cleansed”?

If you say timing...then timing of what?

I answered that today, maybe not to you. The difference is the time of cleansing. It could be at conception. If that is still unclear, there is another post of mine made a half hour ago on that.

[presently no screen name]

Actually, it is not. While we do a lot of what appears to outsiders as rituals, they are not that, and we don't call them that.

Besides the fact I was not always an outsider, what the RCC calls them makes no difference. A duck is a duck.

[Osage Orange]

Take good care.....FRiend

[annalex]

You would have no organized Church and no Papacy prior to Constantine

St. Peter was succeeded by one Linus of whom we know nothing. Depending on historian, either the next or as late as fourth pope was Clement I and he left quite a legacy, way before emperor Constantine.

Pope St. Clement I

[count-your-change]

“Mary was cleansed as she was conceived. She was simply made clean.”

Mary cleansed? By what means? Animal sacrifice, Blood of Christ? Baptism? If by none of these then by what means and who performed this cleansing?

And if so cleansed would Mary need to offer sacrifices for sins later? or be baptized? Or put faith in Christ’s sacrifice as an adult?

This sounds like too important a concept for the Scriptures to be completely silent on so where can I find the basis for saying Mary was conceived without sin or “cleansed as she was conceived”?

[annalex]

the young man was not saved, because he lacked faith in Jesus Christ as Savior.

No, that is not why he was not saved. Jesus explained why:

Yet one thing is wanting to thee: sell all whatever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me (Luke 18:22)

Why don't you read what is written? He was wanting "one more thing". That one more thing was not faith, as you say, it was giving away his possessions. Further, there is no evidence that he lacked faith: he asked Jesus, "Good master, what shall I do to possess everlasting life?" (Luke 18:18). One does not ask a question unless he has faith in the person giving the answer.

that Jesus didn't say to him that if he gave everything to the poor and followed him, he would be saved, but that "his reward would be great in heaven".

That is spin way off the page. "Heaven" is synonymous with "evelasting life". The question was about "everlasting life". Do you think that "saved" has a different meaning as "have everlasting life in heaven?"

we should not allow anything in our lives - family, love, money, fame - to keep us from following him.

That is of course true, but the story tells us that a specific work of charity was required of the young man. The unwillingness to do that work of charity is what prevented him from gaining eternal life. It is more that some abstract "not allowing to keeps us from Christ" it was actively doing certain work.

Read what is written.

[presently no screen name]

Read the words of Jesus, instead of the words that you may think or want Him to say.

Your problem is that you don't know His Word. You cite a Scripture and add what you think and it shows you don't know his whole Word and what HIS KINGDOM is all about.

A faith walk? More peculiar gibberish from the children of the Reformation?

More proof that you are clueless about HIS KINGDOM. FAITH!! YES FAITH!! "Without faith it is IMPOSSIBLE to please God". The RCC is worst that I thought - walking by faith and not by sight is called gibberish.

"We Walk By Faith, Not By Sight" 2 Corinthians 5:7

Read your own paragraph here. It is about his deeds, or rather, lack of them, which has imperilled his immortal soul. Belief in Jesus is required, but not enough on its own.

You lack so much knowledge so you can't understand what I wrote. It's NOT about his deeds - it's about his heart.

"No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money."

[Religion Moderator]

Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

[kosta50]

Send it, but gently...

:)

[kosta50]

Or, after Jerusalem there was another council. We had 7 of them in the Unified Church, and dozens more in the Western Church. We can govern ourselves just fine

I have to hand it to you Alex. Sooner or later you answer all posts. That's impressive. :)

[Quix]

THX.

Can you answer this?

I plan to leave the bandages alone tonight.

Have been out and about all day and now had shower with plastic glove. Bandages are still dry. Some added blood seepage but given all the bonking etc. quite minimal.

I think it would be better to avoid disturbing them another 24 hours or even longer . . . by changing them.

Your or anyone else’s more knowledgeable counsel?

[Quix]

“Mary was cleansed as she was conceived. She was simply made clean.”

Mary cleansed? By what means? Animal sacrifice, Blood of Christ? Baptism? If by none of these then by what means and who performed this cleansing?

And if so cleansed would Mary need to offer sacrifices for sins later? or be baptized? Or put faith in Christ’s sacrifice as an adult?

This sounds like too important a concept for the Scriptures to be completely silent on so where can I find the basis for saying Mary was conceived without sin or “cleansed as she was conceived”?

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NO. NO. NO.

Ya gotta remember . . .

The Magic White Hankys are responsible.

Of course in that case, it would have been the

GRAND DAME GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT . . . . GRAND MOTHER MOTHER SUPERIOR ORIGINAL MAGIC WHITE HANKY

[presently no screen name]

Got some Manuka honey. Good stuff.

Good to hear. It should heal in no time .

[Quix]

Plan to put some on next time I change dressing.

What’s your perspective on only changing the dressing every 2-3 days?