Posted on 10/31/2010 11:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7
In Christ Alone lyrics
Songwriters: Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;
In Christ alone my hope is found He is my light, my strength, my song This Cornerstone, this solid ground Firm through the fiercest drought and storm
What heights of love, what depths of peace When fears are stilled, when strivings cease My Comforter, my All in All Here in the love of Christ I stand
In Christ alone, who took on flesh Fullness of God in helpless Babe This gift of love and righteousness Scorned by the ones He came to save
?Til on that cross as Jesus died The wrath of God was satisfied For every sin on Him was laid Here in the death of Christ I live, I live
There in the ground His body lay Light of the world by darkness slain Then bursting forth in glorious Day Up from the grave He rose again
And as He stands in victory Sin?s curse has lost its grip on me For I am His and He is mine Bought with the precious blood of Christ
Well, duh!!!!
Anything from that moment on was in the future.
Pure unadulterated speculation.
This is not a unique circumstance. Monks and nuns are not interested in sex either, and for the same reason.
And you know this how?
If they didn't believe it, why'd they give her that title?
Does the Church typically confer honors and titles on people which they know are false because they don't *really* believe it?
Matthew 2:13 ff
13 Now when they had gone, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream and said, “Get up! Take the Child and His mother and flee to Egypt, and remain there until I tell you; for Herod is going to search for the Child to destroy Him.”
14 So Joseph got up and took the Child and His mother while it was still night, and left for Egypt. 15 He remained there until the death of Herod. This was to fulfill what had been spoken by the Lord through the prophet: “OUT OF EGYPT I CALLED MY SON.”
Interesting that the Angel didn’t say, “Get up! Take your wife and child...” ;-D
“This is not a unique circumstance. Monks and nuns are not interested in sex either, and for the same reason.”
Two billion dollars and hundreds of years of history says this isn’t so.
You guys might like this; it was written by +Nektarios of Aegina in the 20th century:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SULTMVGCYaA
Refrain: Rejoice, O Bride Unwedded!
O Virgin pure, immaculate/ O Lady Theotokos
O Virgin Mother, Queen of all/ and fleece which is all dewy
More radiant than the rays of sun/ and higher than the heavens
Delight of virgin choruses/ superior to Angels.
Much brighter than the firmament/ and purer than the sun’s light
More holy than the multitude/ of all the heav’nly armies.
Rejoice, O Bride Unwedded!
O Ever Virgin Mary/ of all the world, the Lady
O bride all pure, immaculate/ O Lady Panagia
O Mary bride and Queen of all/ our cause of jubilation
Majestic maiden, Queen of all/ O our most holy Mother
More hon’rable than Cherubim/ beyond compare more glorious
than immaterial Seraphim/ and greater than angelic thrones.
Rejoice, O Bride Unwedded!
Rejoice, O song of Cherubim/ Rejoice, O hymn of angels
Rejoice, O ode of Seraphim/ the joy of the archangels
Rejoice, O peace and happiness/ the harbor of salvation
O sacred chamber of the Word/ flow’r of incorruption
Rejoice, delightful paradise/ of blessed life eternal
Rejoice, O wood and tree of life/ the fount of immortality.
Rejoice, O Bride Unwedded!
I supplicate you, Lady/ now do I call upon you
And I beseech you, Queen of all/ I beg of you your favor
Majestic maiden, spotless one/ O Lady Panagia
I call upon you fervently/ O sacred, hallowed temple
Assist me and deliver me/ protect me from the enemy
And make me an inheritor/ of blessed life eternal.
Rejoice, O Bride Unwedded!
Lovely! Thank you.
Let's see, on one hand you have a group of people who seek the counsel of a consensus formed by the greatest intellectuals and spiritual leaders of the last 2,000 years arrived at by a rigorous process of study and debate. On the other hand you have the "learned" opinions of the Rev. Billy-Bob Rolex and the alumni of the East Tree Stump School of Theology and Diesel Maintenance, or worse self cogitated drivel that makes a yokel feel spiritually superiority.........Makes you go hmmmmmmm.
You couldn't be more wrong. I am not claiming that the Church and children have not been victimized, but that victimization was committed by abhorrent individuals, not the institution of the Catholic Church.
The Church is an institution founded on the principles of faith, forgiveness and redemption. Over the years there have been well over a million priests, some of them truly wolves in sheep's clothing. To demand that the Church reject its founding principles because of the sins of a few would make it nothing more than another fading Protestant denomination.
Now I see Mary has been made into a liar and a deceiver. It’s wasn’t enough that the RCC teaches she wasn’t there for her own son at the tomb as if she was had no compassion/love as a mother. Now she married Joseph but deceived him because she wasn’t interested in sex. A wife is submission to her husband and you’ve made Mary submissive to her own wants/interest.
The RCC and Catholics are literally hellbent on using Mary as their propaganda tool. With your ‘she probably..., leaning unto your own understanding - which is taught not to do to because one will be led astray - that teaching is defied.
I believe the RCC/Catholics will pay dearly for what they have done ‘tried’ to do to the good name of Mary. We are taught to hear and obey, Mary did as everyone who loves God does. Catholics hear and disobey.
Monks and nuns - obeyed the laws/traditions of The RCC which, also, includes poverty and it has nothing to do with what they wanted but NEEDED to obey. They weren’t obeying GOD but ‘man’ because that is what the RCC REQUIRED them to do.
How many nuns left the convent because their eyes were opened? I know many. One thing - as much as the RCC has tried, Mary’s name will not be tarnished - because the gates of hell will not prevail against His Church - but it’s the RCC and Catholics who push their agenda that is tarnished. Hear and disobey has eternal consequences. Anything not of God/His Word, burns - for it is only HIS Word that always will be.
“Thus you nullify the Word of God by your tradition that you have handed down..” Mark 7:13
Yes it does!
Why people follow a group of theologians who don't even teach the members of their church The Gospel makes no sense to Bible believing Christians. Mock us all you want we know who our Rock is and on what we stand.
Thank God you are not referring to the Catholic Church because it put a lot of effort into teaching me the Gospel. Perhaps you would be more comfortable adhering to the following teachings of the Reformation:
"Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly for he is victorious over sin, death, and the world. As long as we are here in this world we have to sin. This life is not a dwelling place of righteousness"
"No sin will separate us from the lamb, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day."
NATURAL LAW PRONOUNCES THAT WHAT WAS CHURCH POLICY WAS NOT!
And with that your comment has rec'd more of my attention than it warrants. Now I'll back to ignoring you.
Like reading a novel, the Iliad, Gilgamesh, etc..
Loosley. It is pulp fiction with a religous theme.
That sounds eerily like that religious sophism "if man was meant to fly, God would have given him wings." The world is not that cut and dry. There are many levels of truth, like peeling an onion, and there is relative truth as well.
It's merely your opinion that they're authentic
You mean like the Bible?
How do you know the archeologists didn't make up the coins?
The same way we can tell the biblical manuscripts were not written yesterday.
I haven't been impressed wiht you either.
But I didn't suggest what compelled the author to do that.
If it was written for such a manner, then it was deliberately written as a lie
Someone who wrote 40 years after the crucifixion was probably not even born when Christ died and was writing what he was taught, just as the rest of you, believing it was a prophesy. Erroneous belief is not a deliberate lie.
Matter of fact, by stating that, you've declared that the whole NT is a fraud.
Either your apparent lack of comprehension is appalling, or you deliberately enjoy twisting things into false conclusions. Only you can answer that.
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