In Christ Alone (Happy reformation day)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExnTlIM5QgE ^ | Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

[RnMomof7]

In Christ Alone lyrics

Songwriters: Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

In Christ alone my hope is found He is my light, my strength, my song This Cornerstone, this solid ground Firm through the fiercest drought and storm

What heights of love, what depths of peace When fears are stilled, when strivings cease My Comforter, my All in All Here in the love of Christ I stand

In Christ alone, who took on flesh Fullness of God in helpless Babe This gift of love and righteousness Scorned by the ones He came to save

?Til on that cross as Jesus died The wrath of God was satisfied For every sin on Him was laid Here in the death of Christ I live, I live

There in the ground His body lay Light of the world by darkness slain Then bursting forth in glorious Day Up from the grave He rose again

And as He stands in victory Sin?s curse has lost its grip on me For I am His and He is mine Bought with the precious blood of Christ

[presently no screen name]

No. It's takes spiritual discernment.....Evidence? Zilch. Just pulpit babble

From the RCC's pulpit is babble - and that's your area. What would you know about Truth. nada, zilch.

[metmom]

Life. Dead people do not get up after being dead for four days. There are no voices in the clouds (but apparently in many people's heads), paralysis is not caused by "demons," etc.

How do you know? Show us your evidence.

You have not proven a thing. Why should we believe you?

[Natural Law]

"We are told to hear and obey."

That is the First Pillar of Islam. That's also what my Mormon neighbor and Jehovah's Witness sister in law tells me. How do you choose who to hear and obey and who not to? How did Luther achieve that standard when so many other more spiritual and pious persons before and after have not? How will you react when the next rebel posts an anti-Reformist screed on the Church door or trhe internet?

[xone]

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[metmom]

Life. Dead people do not get up after being dead for four days. There are no voices in the clouds (but apparently in many people's heads), paralysis is not caused by "demons," etc.

How do you know? Show us your evidence.

You have not proven a thing. Why should we believe you?

You're just an anonymous internet poster. Or maybe, *poser* would be more accurate.

[count-your-change]

“And Acts was most likely written by one of those “Apostles” (Luke) who mistakenly chose Matthias as an Apostle”

One must be careful of their “suppositions”, Luke wasn’t an Apostle.

[presently no screen name]

just like the rest of us, read about them from some 2,000 year-old anonymous narrative.

The 2,000 year old narrative sure has you coming back for more. Do you always spend so much time in things you don't believe? Will you be spending time on santa's knee this year?

[kosta50]

YOU don't [know of anything that supersedes natural laws]. That doesn't mean that something you don't know about doesn't somewhere

So, why don't you tell me what is "supernatural"? Isn't that what I asked you before?

To make blanket statements and think they apply to all places for all time, you would have to know everything, everywhere, for all time and eternity.

You mean like the blanket statements made by those who call themselves "believers?" Do you know everything, everywhere and for all eternity?

The only way to conclusively say what you're claiming is if you were omniscient, and you aren't

Are you?

Making your life experiences the standard by which to measure and judge everything boxes you in.

My stranded is your standard too, presuming you are human, of course, and not some bird mimicking speech.

It does not allow for an honest, objective appraisal of the world around you

And talking donkeys and snakes do?

Restricting the explanations of phenomena to completely *natural* ones does the same thing

Yeah, well, restricting the explanations of phenomena to completely *supernatural* ones does the same thing.

It amounts to willful blindness..."

I'd say.

It's also working on the presumption that you are correct in your interpretation of the evidence and since you are within the system (of nature) so to speak, it is impossible to step outside it and be truly objective about what is observed and the source or reason for an event happening.

Step "outside" where?

[1000 silverlings]

The infamous atheist, Christopher Hitchens

he will never know ecstasy

[Running On Empty]

I wonder if those of you in these recent exchanges realize how much this all looks like dancing around the mulberry bush.

[editor-surveyor]

> “It clearly says that he had sex with her after Jesus birth.

Denying that is saying the writer of the gospel lied and that there are lies in the Bible.

What other lies are in the Bible? How do you determine which they are?”

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Kosta has already told us hundreds of times that any part of the word of God that he disagrees with is a lie.

That appears to be his standard for truth; anything that makes him uncomfortable in his atheism is a lie.
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[presently no screen name]

How do you choose who to hear and obey and who not to?

John 10:4,5 When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know His voice. "But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger's voice."

John 10:27,28 "My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; NO ONE can snatch them out of my hand".

John 10:14,15 "I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep KNOW Me--just as the Father knows Me and I know the Father--and I lay down my life for the sheep.

[presently no screen name]

How did Luther achieve that standard when so many other more spiritual and pious persons before and after have not?

That was the calling on his life and he obeyed the calling. You can't determine in your own eyes who is spiritual or pious - after all, Catholics think the Pope who kissed the Koran was spiritual/pious.

How will you react when the next rebel posts an anti-Reformist screed on the Church door or trhe internet?

Why should I react - I ALREADY KNOW THE TRUTH and I KNOW HIS VOICE and He lives with me. Deception is rampant but NO ONE can snatch me from HIM. Isn't God AWESOME how He protects His own. Praise God!

[Natural Law]

"It takes time to kill all those sacred cows of Catholicism."

So now we have an admission from you that some (much) of what Luther preached was false and that you, and only you, get to decide which is truth and which is a "sacred cow of Catholicism". You are not alone is your hypocritical assertions that everything good spoken by the elders of the reformation was due to some divine revelation on par with a Road to Damascus experience and that everything dirty or evil done by them was due to their Catholic roots. The really bizarre thing is that those of you who are spouting this are too damned stupid or biased to recognize the duplicity.

Do you believe that the Trinity is just another "sacred cow of Catholicism"? How about the Virgin Birth or the curing of the sick or the raising of the dead? Is the Resurrection too just another "sacred cow of Catholicism" too?

I'll give you credit for this, your goofy positions are entertaining and funny if nothing else.

[presently no screen name]

Oh, and do read the Bible. It’s not a waste of your time

Why do you read the catechism, quoted church doctrine? Is the Bible you tell others to read not good enough for the Catholics?

Jesus, The Living Word is not enough for Catholics - they need man made deceptive teachings. Just like His spotless blood (a GIFT) isn't enough for salvation, they need to add 'man's' filthy rags to make it complete.

[presently no screen name]

what Luther preached was false and that you,

I know spinning is your thing but what Luther was taught at the hands of the RCC.

and only you, get to decide which is truth and which is a "sacred cow of Catholicism".

No. You can do it too - just get in THE WORD and renew your mind.

How about the Virgin Birth or the curing of the sick or the raising of the dead? Is the Resurrection too just another "sacred cow of Catholicism" too?

You obviously know the difference between deceptive teachings and God's Word. Congratulations. What is in God's Word is ALL TRUTH! I don't have to explain any more - you know the RCC deceptive teachings are the sacred cows - just by what you 'picked' to post.

Go get the roast ready - you know what to throw in! Burning the catechism and church doctrines will not do it but a definite first step. You need much time spent in The Word and plant Scripture in your heart to renew your mind. It won't happen right away.

Mark 4:26-29 He also said, "This is what the kingdom of God is like. A man scatters seed (The Word) on the ground.

Night and day, whether he sleeps or gets up, the seed sprouts and grows, though he does not know how.

All by itself the soil produces grain--first the stalk, then the head, then the full kernel in the head.

As soon as the grain is ripe, he puts the sickle to it, because the harvest has come."

However, first one must prepare the soil to receive the seed. Hardened soil (heart) does not accept the seed.

[presently no screen name]

I'll give you credit for this, your goofy positions are entertaining and funny if nothing else.

Glad I entertained you. Satan takes the Word more serious - that's why he twisted it from the very beginning. He wouldn't go against anything goofy, he has too much at stake and needs company to carry his plan through deception. Since the wide gate leads to destruction, I'd say he has deceived many. For few enter the narrow gate.

Matt 7:13,14 "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.

But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."

[OLD REGGIE]

“And Acts was most likely written by one of those “Apostles” (Luke) who mistakenly chose Matthias as an Apostle”

One must be careful of their “suppositions”, Luke wasn’t an Apostle.

Right you are my friend. My excuse? Old Age and carelessnes. :-)

I should have said Luke was among those who believed the Apostles had the God given authority to name their successors. I am not among those who believe so but, then, I am one of those "off the reservation" Unitarians. I rather think the number "12" is important and was reserved to Jesus alone.

[wmfights]

Kosta has already told us hundreds of times that any part of the word of God that he disagrees with is a lie.

In fairness to our FRiend Kosta I think his position is that whenever a group of theologians from his church gathered and determined what the truth of something was that is what the truth is. Any disagreement with these theologians would be wrong. If a clear reading of Scripture disagrees with the determination of these theologians then Scripture as interpreted would be wrong.

Therefore brothers and sisters become cousins. ;)

[Natural Law]

"Satan takes the Word more serious"

So now you speak for Satan and God?

BTW - posting in a scripturalesque prose doesn't make what you post anymore insightful or true. It just gives you far more wiggle room.