In Christ Alone (Happy reformation day)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExnTlIM5QgE ^ | Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

[RnMomof7]

In Christ Alone lyrics

Songwriters: Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

In Christ alone my hope is found He is my light, my strength, my song This Cornerstone, this solid ground Firm through the fiercest drought and storm

What heights of love, what depths of peace When fears are stilled, when strivings cease My Comforter, my All in All Here in the love of Christ I stand

In Christ alone, who took on flesh Fullness of God in helpless Babe This gift of love and righteousness Scorned by the ones He came to save

?Til on that cross as Jesus died The wrath of God was satisfied For every sin on Him was laid Here in the death of Christ I live, I live

There in the ground His body lay Light of the world by darkness slain Then bursting forth in glorious Day Up from the grave He rose again

And as He stands in victory Sin?s curse has lost its grip on me For I am His and He is mine Bought with the precious blood of Christ

[RnMomof7]

<<<<<< Luther bitterly lamented this result in his later years>>>>>

Catholics can not get over their hatred of this godly man ..maybe a look into their own souls might reveal the root of that sin that God calls murder (Matt 5:22)

In the last days before his death Luther had been the cheerful man his friends knew and loved. He had successfully completed a difficult mission: a trip from Wittenberg to Eisleben to mediate in a protracted quarrel between the two counts of Mansfeld, the brothers Gebhard and Albert. Hours had been spent sitting between the parties, listening to the clever reasoning of administrative lawyers—a breed he had despised ever since his early days as a law student in Erfurt. After two tough weeks of negotiation, the parties had narrowed their differences and a reconciliation had finally—though only temporarily—been achieved. So there was reason to be cheerful. Luther had suspected that he would die in Eisleben, the place of his birth. But this did not worry him, although he was quite sure he had little time left: “When I get home to Wittenberg again, I will lie down in my coffin and give the worms a fat doctor to feast on.” By highlighting the skeleton within the human body, late medieval art had urgently reminded everyone that health, beauty, and wealth were only a few breaths away from the Dance of Death. The “fat doctor” was well aware of this, not as a moralistic horror story, but as a reality of life poised on the brink of eternity. [Source: Heiko Oberman, Luther: Man Between God and the Devil (New York: Doubleday, 1982), 305].

Philip Melanchthon recorded this final prayer uttered by Luther:

“My Heavenly Father, eternal Compassionate God, you have revealed to me your beloved Son our LORD Jesus Christ whom I have known, of whom I have acquaintance, whom I love, and whom I honor as my beloved Savior and Redeemer, whom the Godless persecute, dissipate, and reproach. Take my Soul to you. This he said three times: ‘Into your hands I commend my Spirit, you have redeemed me God of truth. And God so loved the world…”

[wagglebee]

Uh Uh! Isn't it against the rules to plagarize [sic] the words of others? No quotation marks, no indicationn [sic] it is not an original thought. Criminal! Dishonest! My my!

I linked the source in post 1900, attributed it in the post you are referring to AND the RM said to drop the issue.

[presently no screen name]

which is nothing.

[Lera]

Prior to the Sixteenth Century, what Christian ever questioned teaching according to history?

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Could it be that before then getting a hold of an actual Bible was almost impossible not to mention they, the Catholic Church would put you to death for having one if you were a lay person?

The Council of Toulouse, 1229 AD Cannon 14
Prohibts laymen from owning any books of the Old or New Testament

That’s right the Catholic Church prohibited and killed people just for having copies of the Bible .
Not to mention that they kept the masses of people illiterate (unlike the Jews who taught their own to read)

There is a big REASON for this and it has EVERYTHING to do with staying in power.

After the invention of the printing press things got out .. maybe that’s why they NEEDED their inquisition.

[Quix]

I hope you have your hazmat suit on.

[presently no screen name]

if you are unable to make an argument.

Honesty is good. Catholics, indeed, ARE here to argue AGAINST The WORD and not embrace Jesus The Word.

[Natural Law]

"It was created out of whole cloth at Nicea by the Roman Pontiff Constantine."

Is this St,]. Groundhogs Day? This "crepe" was refuted multiple times before. I guess sooner or later some moron will forget and post it yet again. Constantine was never a Pontiff and he didn't incorporate the Church. He simply legalized and endorsed it.

[Natural Law]

"And the University Of Dayton is..............impartial?"

I've sen this dog and pony show before. An "impartial" site that contains anti-Catholic information.

[presently no screen name]

Are you saying that there are no Scriptures that show Mary had other children?

Are you, also, agreeing with the Vatican teaching she was born without original sin?

[Lera]

That pagan ordered the murder of many Christians just because they would not follow his changing the day of worship from the Sabbath.

[wagglebee]

Here are the threads I know about:

Tea Party Activists Tell Republicans to Avoid Abortion

Avoid Social Issues, GOP Urged (Homosexualists, Pro-Aborts Co-opt Tea Party Movement)

Tea Party Activists Tell Republicans to Avoid Abortion

This one looks like it might be getting ready to heat up:

TEA Party Groups Playing With Fire (Vanity)

[Quix]

INDEED.

[mas cerveza por favor]

Prior to the council of Nicea there is no corporation called the Roman catholic church. It was created out of whole cloth at Nicea by the Roman Pontiff Constantine.

Roman Pontiff did not attend the Council of Nicea in Turkey. It was convoked by the Emperor Constantine who was building his new capital in Turkey.

Who by the way was a pagan.

No. Emperor Constantine was baptized on his deathbed and his mother, St. Helena, was a pious Christian.

He was a vehement anti-semite who ordered the rejection of YHvH's Passover and Sabbat worship as commanded by Holy Scripture. He as a pagan ordered the creation of the pagan feast of Easter and pagan Sunday worship.

Easter had alway been celebrated. The issue was whether to celebrate only on Sunday, or according to the lunar calendar where the day of the week changes from year to year. Sunday had long been the regular day of worship for Christians. Constantine convoked council in hopes of preventing war between Church factions. He was not yet fully a member of the Church and did not take part in the theological discussions.

Prior to 1600 and after 325CE all who questioned the Roman "church" were murdered by the Roman "church"

No. The Church has always encouraged vigorous debate following St. Paul's direction that Christians must "give reason for what you believe." The Catholic Church invented the university system and the accompanying academic freedom. However, prior the the Protestant/Enlightenment rejection of historical proof and linear logic, there was a difference in debate. Pursuit of truth was considered necessary and the debater was required to provide proofs of his position. The idea that "freedom of speech" includes the right of willful lying is a modern falsehood. The Catholic belief is that error has no rights.

[Quix]

is not and was not

remotely

“beyond question.”

[wagglebee]

I forgot Jim's big one:

One more time: FR's God-given Life & Liberty constitutional conservative activism agenda!!

[Quix]

Wise.

[editor-surveyor]

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That has to be the sickest cop-out reply I’ve ever read here.
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[editor-surveyor]

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Everything not specifically of Christ inevitably becomes the venue of Satan.
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[Iscool]

I have already covered this issue many times previously on this thread. From a previous post:"Two important traditions are apostolic succession and the infallibility Church councils certified by the pope.Of course these traditions are demonstrated in scripture fully verified by history.

You haven't covered it at all...There is nothing in the scripture that indicates Apostolic succession nor an infallible Catholic religion...

And the fact that your religion has foisted this anti-biblical fable on you guys for so long has nothing to do with your claim that you have unwritten Apostolic tradition straight from the Apostles' mouths...

C'mon, let's see the unwritten Apostolic traditions that you guys have that were left out of the scriptures...The OTHER things that Jesus taught that John didn't write about...Let's hear it...