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To: GonzoII

>> Mk 16: 16 He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned.<<

Sorry dude. The second part of that verse even contradicts your assertion. It doesn’t say that the lack of being baptized shall cause one to be condemned. It specifically says the believe part.

If baptism was required the thief on the cross would not have been saved and many throughout the Bible would not have been but Jesus specifically said they were. To say that Baptism is required is to say that Jesus sacrifice on the Cross was insufficient for Salvation.


6 posted on 10/30/2010 9:11:53 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear
"Sorry dude. The second part of that verse even contradicts your assertion."

The ball is in your hand you've got to deal with the words of Christ himself.

The thief was saved by his desire to be saved which is an exceptance to the rule, its called baptism of desire.

7 posted on 10/30/2010 9:23:05 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: CynicalBear

“To say that Baptism is required is to say that Jesus sacrifice on the Cross was insufficient for Salvation.”

That right there looks like tagline material.

;o)


11 posted on 10/30/2010 10:16:12 AM PDT by Grunthor (I learned only after Obamas' election that I am a racist, SEXIST, homophobe, anarchist.)
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