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To: OldNavyVet; betty boop; Dr. Eckleburg; Alamo-Girl
I list Marshall's two challenges regarding codes, information and information entropy below. If you successfully answer either one of them you will be the first, to the best of my knowledge, to ever do so. You will be renowned in the annals of science.

First, he points in the article I linked earlier in the thread that mutation is the equivalent of noise, which always, without exception, degrades the information. It is like tape hiss on a cassette tape. I am a professional recording engineer and a musician. I know what he is talking about. So do you, if you have ever listened to a cassette tape. He discusses a possible exception in digital recording - dither:

"And again, once the noise is there, it is absolutely impossible to get it back out. And I’ve never met any engineer who ever said the signal could be better after you added noise to it. The only exception to this is something called dither which does add noise to the signal before [me: or after] it’s recorded, but that is done to neutralize distortions in the recording equipment. It’s “dither” in digital recording, and “bias” in analog recording. But it does not increase the information; it degrades the signal, albeit in a useful way.

So I’m hunting for a flaw in this theory. Can anyone show that noise increases the useful information in a signal?"

The challenge is:
“Show me an example where random mutation actually increases information”
Second, with reference to any code, he points out in other articles that in every case where the origin of a code is known, it is always, without exception the product of a mind. The challenge is:
Provide one example of a code, defined as "a channel with an input alphabet A and an output alphabet B" that is not the product of a mind.

Cordially,

42 posted on 10/30/2010 6:50:04 AM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Diamond
Thank you so much for sharing these challenges and your insights, dear Diamond!
51 posted on 10/30/2010 10:33:38 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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