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To: spirited irish; OldNavyVet; Alamo-Girl; TXnMA; marron; xzins; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; Overwatcher
Naturalism is like a coin. One side is materialism and the other is pantheism.

Great observation, spirited irish!

I've noticed that many physicists working in theoretical biology are attracted to Eastern philosophical ideas, e.g., pantheism. For example, Ervin Schrodinger attached an epilog to his famous (and fascinating) essay "What Is Life?" (1944) that mentioned the following:

...let us see whether we cannot draw the correct, non-contradictory conclusion from the following two premises: (i) My body functions as a pure mechanism according to the Laws of Nature. (ii) Yet I know, by incontrovertible direct experience, that I am directing its motions, of which I foresee the effects, that may be fateful and all-important, in which case I feel and take full responsibility for them. The only possible inference from these two facts is, I think, that I — I in the widest meaning of the word, that is to say, every conscious mind that has ever said or felt 'I' — am the person, if any, who controls the 'motion of the atoms' according to the Laws of Nature. Within a cultural milieu (Kulturkreis) where certain conceptions (which once had or still have a wider meaning amongst other peoples) have been limited and specialized, it is daring to give to this conclusion the simple wording that it requires. In Christian terminology to say: 'Hence I am God Almighty' sounds both blasphemous and lunatic. But please disregard these connotations for the moment and consider whether the above inference is not the closest a biologist can get to proving also their God and immortality at one stroke. In itself, the insight is not new. The earliest records to my knowledge date back some 2,500 years or more. From the early great Upanishads the recognition ATHMAN = BRAHMAN upheld in (the personal self equals the omnipresent, all-comprehending eternal self) was in Indian thought considered, far from being blasphemous, to represent the quintessence of deepest insight into the happenings of the world. The striving of all the scholars of Vedanta was, after having learnt to pronounce with their lips, really to assimilate in their minds this grandest of all thoughts. Again, the mystics of many centuries, independently, yet in perfect harmony with each other (somewhat like the particles in an ideal gas) have described, each of them, the unique experience of his or her life in terms that can be condensed in the phrase: DEUS FACTUS SUM (I have become God). To Western ideology the thought has remained a stranger, in spite of Schopenhauer and others who stood for it and in spite of those true lovers who, as they look into each other's eyes, become aware that their thought and their joy are numerically one — not merely similar or identical; but they, as a rule, are emotionally too busy to indulge in clear thinking, [in] which respect they very much resemble the mystic....

Thus there is a fundamental worldview at work. And of course our worldview definitely informs and affects our science....

Thank you so much for your insightful essay/post, dear spirited!

20 posted on 10/29/2010 10:10:26 AM PDT by betty boop (Seek truth and beauty together; you will never find them apart. — F. M. Cornford)
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To: betty boop
Thank you so much for that fascinating excerpt, dearest sister in Christ!
44 posted on 10/30/2010 9:31:06 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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