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To: Diamond; r9etb; Alamo-Girl
...by what standard does one who says the material universe is all there is judge that the materialist universe is not as it ought to be? What foundation does the atheist have for this notion that the universe is not as it ought to be? None. Atheism renders evil and suffering as meaningless and unintelligible....

Not to mention "sin" — as r9etb has pointed out.

...it should be noted that the judgment of God by His putative critic, who presumes to make the finite human mind the ultimate criterion of truth, is self-vitiating in a way similar to that of the atheist. By what moral or epistemological standard does the finite, subjective man judge the infinite God? God's standard?

Oh, so beautifully said, dear Diamond! How can we humans possibly conceive of "God's standard?" Plus it seems to me we never can step outside of it....

Thank you ever so much for your outstanding essay/post!

146 posted on 11/07/2010 2:13:36 PM PST by betty boop (Seek truth and beauty together; you will never find them apart. — F. M. Cornford)
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To: betty boop; Diamond
How can we humans possibly conceive of "God's standard?" Plus it seems to me we never can step outside of it....

Indeed. Thank you both so very much for your insights!

147 posted on 11/07/2010 9:44:25 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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