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An Open Letter to My Physicist Friend RE: Darwinism and the Problem of Free Will
Conservative Underground | October 26, 2010 | Jean F. Drew

Posted on 10/28/2010 10:49:08 AM PDT by betty boop

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To: Alamo-Girl
Oh, my dearest sister in Christ, but I could not laugh at that "joke."


My dearest hubby B says that I have entirely lost my sense of humor lately: I have become so "grim" in my outlook that I cannot even laugh anymore.

Jeepers, I sure do hope that he is wrong about this! Otherwise, I am probably in deep trouble!

Laughter — somehow — is balm to the suffering soul....

141 posted on 11/06/2010 3:54:15 PM PDT by betty boop (Seek truth and beauty together; you will never find them apart. — F. M. Cornford)
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To: betty boop
Thank you so very much for your wonderful essay-post, dearest sister in Christ!

Truly, there are always guides to the system.

142 posted on 11/06/2010 9:24:49 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; r9etb
Truly, there are always guides to the system.

Oh, I certainly agree with you there, dearest sister in Christ!

My Latin is really rusty these days. Where I said "sensorium Deum" in my last, the usage was incorrect. The correct expression would be sensorium Dei.

Newton was an extraordinarily "original" thinker who was also a passionate lover of God....

JHMO FWIW

Good night dearest sister!

143 posted on 11/06/2010 9:58:57 PM PDT by betty boop (Seek truth and beauty together; you will never find them apart. — F. M. Cornford)
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To: betty boop
There are theological implications to the idea of a determined universe. A Calvinist is put into the position of having to blame God directly for all the suffering in the world — which is to conceive of God as a monster.... (At least I read this line of reasoning somewhere recently.)

Betty, as you said regarding "randomness", I say, "suffering" compared to what? As far as the atheist goes, by what standard does one who says the material universe is all there is judge that the materialist universe is not as it ought to be? What foundation does the atheist have for this notion that the universe is not as it ought to be? None. Atheism renders evil and suffering as meaningless and unintelligible.

Regarding someone's allegation that the Calvinist is put into the position of having to blame God directly for all the suffering in the world — which is to conceive of God as a monster.., it shoud be noted that the judgment of God by His putative critic, who presumes to make the finite human mind the ultimate criterion of truth, is self-vitiating in a way similar to that of the atheist. By what moral or epistemological standard does the finite, subjective man judge the infinite God? God's standard? As the Scripture says concerning such arrogant foolishnes of man presuming to have the abilities of God in order to blame God in some fashion:

You will say to me then, "Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?"

But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, "Why have you made me like this?" Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory— even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles?

Cordially,

144 posted on 11/07/2010 5:13:01 AM PST by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: betty boop
Thank you again for all of your insights, dearest sister in Christ!

Newton was an extraordinarily "original" thinker who was also a passionate lover of God....

Thank God for those like Newton who recognize their mental abilities are gifts of God.


145 posted on 11/07/2010 5:57:54 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Diamond; r9etb; Alamo-Girl
...by what standard does one who says the material universe is all there is judge that the materialist universe is not as it ought to be? What foundation does the atheist have for this notion that the universe is not as it ought to be? None. Atheism renders evil and suffering as meaningless and unintelligible....

Not to mention "sin" — as r9etb has pointed out.

...it should be noted that the judgment of God by His putative critic, who presumes to make the finite human mind the ultimate criterion of truth, is self-vitiating in a way similar to that of the atheist. By what moral or epistemological standard does the finite, subjective man judge the infinite God? God's standard?

Oh, so beautifully said, dear Diamond! How can we humans possibly conceive of "God's standard?" Plus it seems to me we never can step outside of it....

Thank you ever so much for your outstanding essay/post!

146 posted on 11/07/2010 2:13:36 PM PST by betty boop (Seek truth and beauty together; you will never find them apart. — F. M. Cornford)
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How can we humans possibly conceive of "God's standard?" Plus it seems to me we never can step outside of it....

Indeed. Thank you both so very much for your insights!

147 posted on 11/07/2010 9:44:25 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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