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To: Paragon Defender

Here, let me clear up my true intent.

I am investigating LDS and trying to understand it in the same way I understand Judaism or Catholicism.

That in and of itself doesn’t make me Anti anyone if I don’t join.

But you know you guys always pull your contrived “I am suspicious of your intent” crap. Yes, I used that word on this thread.

If your religion is so true, you zip, nada, nothing to be in fear of.

I never met Christians, like you, who are in fear of anyone questioning their faith.

If your faith in your faith is strong enough, then it is all you need.

But, extant to your existence is that “Christians” who have been absolutely railed against by your many prophet is that we are in a failed “system” or we are flawed when compared to LDS.

So there are levels of Christianity? As in “I am holier than thou”?

How do you expect people to respond when they hear that?

I mean, the truth of the matter is “equivocation” seems to me one of the many hallmarks of your beliefs and manipulation your favorite tool.

You are suspicious because I asked a question or question LDS?

Man, I don’t know about you but, anyone can ask me anything about being a Christian and I will smile all day long. Even when they are atheists or Jewish and think this whole Christianity thing is a bunch of mumbo jumbo to them.

Heck, they can even paint a picture of Mary and throw elephant dung on it, wait for it to dry and get top billing at the Guggenheim for all I care.

Even that causes me no offense.

Some people are validated by offending others, while others think they have some sort of cross to bear and through their manufactured and synthetic offense are validated in their invented stigmata.

I really don’t get where you are coming from. “I am suspicious...”. Is that suppose to make me more genteel in my questioning so I don’t offend you or more pliant your own authority?

Guess you feel you are better than others but whatever Dude.

Only you could presume to be better than other’s in God’s eyes and actually find that an endeavor God approves of.

Ridiculous.

You ain’t a bad guy and ain’t a good guy, we’re just two guys.

Oh, and my response would have been completely different and just questions but your arrogant presumption of suspicion.

I am the “Investigator” you are already converted.


68 posted on 10/26/2010 9:54:58 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome
Man, I don’t know about you but, anyone can ask me anything about being a Christian and I will smile all day long. Even when they are atheists or Jewish and think this whole Christianity thing is a bunch of mumbo jumbo to them.

Good thing! Because when I see these threads all I see is that Mormonism is a cult off-shoot of Christianity and Christianity is a cult off-shoot of Judaism!

Mormonism would never teach that man can progress to god status if it werent for Jesus being a man-god in Christianity. And Christianity has it's own pagan beliefs such as a memorial meal of eating the flesh and drinking the blood of the savior. The Mysteries Mithras' faithful celebrated a sacred meal. So did followers of Adonis, Attis, Osiris, and other Pagan Gods of the Mystery Religions.

Likewise the virgin birth is also pagan. Virgin birth is also from Krishna, Buddah, Dionysus and Horus.

Jesus is also a human sacrifice which is pagan and forbidden by Torah.

Jesus is a human vicarious atonement, also forbidden by Torah.

Jesus, even if he could have been a sacrifice, was not sacrificed according to Torah. His throat was not slit (he died from suffocation), his blood was not sprinkled on the altar, his innards and fat not burned on the altar. He in no way met the criteria of "sin sacrifice".

So, mormonism is wrong but christianity is just as wrong, from the Jewish (Original Gospel) point of view.

72 posted on 10/26/2010 11:09:44 AM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: Vendome

You are suspicious because I asked a question or question LDS?


It was the manner in which it was phrased. And your continued antogonistic tone makes me think I was right.


75 posted on 10/26/2010 11:39:45 AM PDT by Paragon Defender
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