Church: Mormons can't lead Scouts

Charlotte Observer ^ | Oct. 19, 2010 | Tim Funk

[Elsie]

Becoming Christian does not make one a Jew.

Likewise; a JEW; becoming a Christian; does not lose their JEWISHNESS.

[Elsie]

And you, PD, show just how lazy and uncaring that you are; by REFUSING to show ANYTHING but a haystack of links.

Shame on you for not being ABLE to defend your ‘faith’.

[Elsie]

...the same old addressed a thousand times propaganda.

Coming soon to a door near you!

[Elsie]

 

There goes Elsie again with the same old addressed a thousand times propaganda.

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"He (Joseph Smith) is the man through whom God has spoken... yet I would not like to call him a savior, though in a certain capacity he was a god to us, and is to the nations of the earth, and will continue to be."

 - Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:321

 

 

"You call us fools; but the day will be, gentlemen and ladies, whether you belong to this Church or not, when you will prize brother Joseph Smith as the Prophet of the Living God, and look upon him as a god..."

- Herber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 5:88

 

 

"If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]"

- (as quoted in 1988 Melchizedek Priesthood Study Guide, p. 142)

 

 

There is "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God"

- Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190

 

 

"I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him. We have not got rid of him, but he stands there as the sentinel, holding the keys of the kingdom of God; and there are many of them beside him. I tell you, if we get past those who have mingled with us, and know us best, and have a right to know us best, probably we can pass all other sentinels as far as it is necessary, or as far as we may desire. But I tell you, the pinch will be with those that have mingled with us, stood next to us, weighed our spirits, tried us, and proven us: there will be a pinch, in my view, to get past them. The others, perhaps, will say, If brother Joseph is satisfied with you, you may pass. If it is all right with him, it is all right with me. Then if Joseph shall say to a man, or if brother Brigham say to a man, I forgive you your sins, "Whosoever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them;" if you who have suffered and felt the weight of transgression—if you have generosity enough to forgive the sinner, I will forgive him: you cannot have more generosity than I have. I have given you power to forgive sins, and when the Lord gives a gift, he does not take it back again."

 - Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155

 

 

 

"It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men.... If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,"

 - Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670

[Elsie]

It smacks of bigotry and they are the ones coming out looking bad in this.

O...
K...

[Elsie]

It smacks of bigotry and they are the ones coming out looking bad in this.

That 'pagan' EASTER really jumps around on the calendar.

I'll bet that drove PAGANS nuts trying to plan for it...

[Elsie]

Uh... ignore the above post!

This one should be better

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You are correct, it is Passover; not Easter.

That 'pagan' EASTER really jumps around on the calendar.

I'll bet that drove PAGANS nuts trying to plan for it...

[Elsie]

WOW!

It didn’t look THAT big in preview!

[GourmetDan]

"That 'pagan' EASTER really jumps around on the calendar. I'll bet that drove PAGANS nuts trying to plan for it..."

Sorry but this shows a profound lack of understanding of how the ancients tracked time.

It also ignores the etymology of the name 'Easter', coming from the name for the pagan goddess of fertility - Eostre; also known as Aphrodite, Ashtoreth, Astarte, Ishtar, etc in other cultures.

[Uri’el-2012]

And what was funny about that. Latin was common among the Roman guards and just like living in So Cal, you pick up some Spanish, it is common knowledge that most of the people in the ANE knew a smattering of Latin, even the commoners.

Mel Gibson movies do not reflect history.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[Uri’el-2012]

U-2012>ignorant Christian term.

Spoken like a true follower of Yeshua...NOT ,

Again, you demonstrate your ignorance of the King of the universe.

The term Yahweh was created by ignorant German "christians"
when they found adonai written under YHvH. They merged the two
and created Yahweh.

They were totally ignorant that Rabbinical Jews
when they read YHvH, vocalize adonai for fear
of taking YHvH name in vain.

This prohibition began in ~200 CE.

For someone who demanded Truth and not silence,
can not stand the Truth.

May you seek YHvH in His Holy Word
and reject the traditions of man-made religion.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[Uri’el-2012]

U-2012....replaced with Pagan feast days; the feast days of the Evil One.

And what BETTER way to STOMP on the practices of 'The Evil One' than by usurping his fun days!

(Kinda like how the FAGS have taken over the RAINBOW: symbol of GOD!)

Not quite the same:
When you reject and impugn the Holy Word of G-d
by rejecting YHvH's commanded Feast Days and instead
celebrate the feast days of the Evil One, one does not obey
the creator of the universe.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[Uri’el-2012]

U-2012.Do you consider yourself "grafted in" ?

An APPLE branch; grafted to a PEACH tree; will NOT produce peachs; but APPLES.

You seem totally ignorant of Romans 11

Rabbi Paul was teaching about grafting
wild olives branches into cultivated olive trees.

May you seek the face of YHvH in His Holy Word.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[ejonesie22]

But the do gain salvation under the new covenant...

[Uri’el-2012]

And what was funny about that. Latin was common among the Roman guards and just like living in So Cal, you pick up some Spanish, it is common knowledge that most of the people in the ANE knew a smattering of Latin, even the commoners.

I suggest that you read some history.

Alexander created the form of Greek known as Koine.
It was the language spoken throughout his Empire.

YHvH used Alexander's Koine Greek and Rome's network
of roads to spread His Holy Word out of Jerusalem
to the ends of the world.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[ejonesie22]

Given...

[ejonesie22]

Now let me see if I am getting the gist of what you are saying here.

It is your contention that Peter, a man who would go on to be a leader in the Early Church, who was born and raised in the middle of the Roman Empire, an Empire whose language was Latin, who traveled at the very crossroads between the Northern and Southern parts of said empire ultimately winding up in Rome itself, a place where more than a “smattering “ of Latin was spoken, to grow the Church in the regions he traveled in, preach to the locals on the journey and be martyred, in Rome, under the Emperor Nero spoke NO Latin at all?

Incredible...

[Godzilla]

The Karaites do however pronounce YHvH.

What VOWELS do they insert into the CONSONANTS of YHvH and how do they justify it?

[ejonesie22]

AND SO FORTH?

I think you are just Mormondude in a JW costume...

[Elsie]

Sorry but this shows a profound lack of understanding of how the ancients tracked time.

And I'm sorry that my little joke about EASTER being tied to PASSOVER got lost in the telling...