Why the temple ceremony was changed in 1990 - LDS-Mormon

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[reaganaut]

(raising right arm to the square) AYE!!

[reaganaut]

Yes.

[reaganaut]

Ping to #20. Worth a read at the link.

[greyfoxx39]

The mormon church wouldn't send out a survey NOW! Especially one asking if a member had any doubts!

In any case, members are presently so well-trained that instead of asking for members' opinions, this kind of message is sent out.

"The church has made the decision that ALL the cleaning responsibilities will be done by members of the church". This is necessary to "fell the Spirit in abundance."

[colorcountry]

Oh my, they are sooooo blessed to feel the Spirit in abundance.

But that brings to mind a question....are they feeling the Holy Spirit or the Holy Ghost?

[delacoert]

Thanks for that ping to #20.

That link is eye-opening to say the least.

[Vendome]

Thanks for pinging me. I forgot to read this thread and it’s important.

[greyfoxx39]

Fell should be “feel”...but on second thought, “Felling the Spirit” works too.

[Vendome]

What kind of effluence is that?

I go the lds-mormon page and get a pop up?

[MarkBsnr]

"The church has made the decision that ALL the cleaning responsibilities will be done by members of the church". This is necessary to "[feel] the Spirit in abundance."

Does this mean that there are now keg parties during church cleaning?

[MHGinTN]

I read it ... feel like I need a shower!

[delacoert]

I apologize if it's an unsafe webpage. I just followed the links again after reading your warning and go right to the article withou pop-up or warning so I don't know wat's going on.

Again, I am sorry if it's not a safe link.

[reaganaut]

I lived in Utah at the time this came out. It was topic of newscasts every night for quite awhile. Even the state got involved in the investigation.

It is also the first time we heard publicly about the ‘strengthening the members committee’.

Eye opening is a bit of an understatement for some of us.

[Vendome]

Oh! No problem. I haven’t read the article yet but thought it was part of the LDS and thought it weird. LOL

Thank you again for pinging me.

[Vendome]

And the link is safe, don’t worry.

[caww]

In what way are they using to hide this?

From the readings here it remains absolutely amazing Mormon leadership spends more time covering “hiding” what is done and what they plan to do then letting their own memebership know what is going on and why. But then they do have much to hide which would never be acceptable to people if they were told from the beginning.

[caww]

Thanks for the ping...

[Godzilla]

absolutely creepy

[caww]

Having an understanding of ritual abuse I found the Glen pace Memo is pretty much accurate in regards to the dissociation issue...... Many occult members go thru a “desensitization” to the natural fear and discomfort they experience in the rituals performed though are not aware it is desensitization because it's presented from the perspective that to “gain” what is ahead for them they must “push past the fear”. They are pre-programmed to believe their “fear” is the problem.

What new members rarely understand is that the fear they experience is an inner warning designed by God within us and should not be pushed past..rather heeded that what they are doing or about to do is wrong and most often dangerous to their very soul.

In Mormonism the person is very slowly mislead...inf fact just as in the occults they are told to decide for themselves...read for themselves, (of course it's Mormon literature, same as the occults offer their literature to initiates), the patterns used by Mormonism are the same to entice and deceive the initiate. Who unfortunately has already been encouraged to get in touch with “feeling” they have them convinced need to be expressed. Same with occults...they lock on to the “feeling” aspects.

I could go on about the similarities...but the dissociative aspect does occur as one goes thru the rituals...that includes those who go thru the Freemasonry Rituals. Most experience some pretty strong negatives about what they are doing and what is being done to them as they go thru the rites. ..but most also have an inner debate that they can “get thru this” to the other side and just get the membership they desire. Further they know others have gone thru these as well, and since a predominately male organization it isn't very macho to resist or show that discomfort in the presence of powerful men in society.

We are designed with the ability to disassociate...it is Gods way of helping us get thru trama and traumatic experiences and why people can't remember well the details. Be it a car accident or enduring war camps. The human psychic can only handle so much and when that is reached,( and varies for individuals), the mind will indeed “leave” the situation.

[caww]

I actually had an opportunity to work as an assistant to a young woman who had gone thru childhood satanic ritual abuse from the time she was three years old. Later her parents renounced satanic worship and went the other extreme in a extreme Charismatic Church...where if the child even sneezed they attempted to cast out demons in her.
It was no wonder this young woman eventually burned down her parents home! No one could imagine the confusion in this kids head.

God works in very real ways and I spent hours and hours with her. What she went thru would curl any ones hair. There was so much fed her she trusted no one at all. But in time her defenses came down and on her own she went to a local church by herself and gave her live to Christ...You cannot imagine the joy when she shared this and she knew the Love and forgiveness of Christ. Breath taking moment to be sure.